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4 Planets are in Retrograde! What is Coming & How to Deal with The CHAOS | James Van Praagh

• James Van Praagh • Season 1 • Episode 15

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Feeling more anxiety and chaos? The planetary war might be to blame. Mercury, Saturn, Pluto, and Neptune are in Retrograde and oppositions are rising! Let's beat it...
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These are challenging times for everyone, do you know why? Today Kellee White will reveal her master astrological calendar for the rest of summer that is affecting all of us right now. From tyrannical governments, war, and chaos in our relationships - we'll unfold the planetary war that is changing our everyday life here on Earth for the rest of this season. Mercury retrograde, Saturn retrograde, pluto retrograde, and Neptune retrograde right now is testing us to the highest level. With the added opposition of Sun and Saturn, we'll be sure to see a lot unfold for this U.S. election year... But don't get your hopes down! We'll show you how to beat it with grounding tips and a past life exercise that will connect you back to your spirit and the divine.
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About Our Rescheduled Guest - Linda Backman:

Dr. Linda Backman, licensed psychologist and regression therapist, has been in private practice for 45 years. Since 1993, Dr. Backman has guided innumerable individuals in regression hypnotherapy to access their past and between lives. Regression hypnotherapy allows the client to understand their soul mission, soul progress, soul relationships, and much more. Dr. Backman’s work, includes guiding soul regressions, speaking and writing as well as training others in soul regression hypnotherapy both in the US and abroad.

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James Van Praagh is hailed worldwide as a pioneer of the mediumship movement and is considered one of the most widely recognized and accurate spiritual mediums working today.

A “survival evidence medium,” he provides evidential proof of life after death through highly detailed messages from the spiritual realm. He is recognized annually on Watkins List of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People – a prestigious list of spiritual teachers, activists, authors, and thinkers.

Throughout his career, James Van Praagh has appeared on countless national radio and television shows including The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King Live, Dr. Phil, 48 Hours, The View, The Joy Behar Show, Chelsea Lately, Coast to Coast AM, and many more. 
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About Kellee White:

Kellee White is a Spiritual Medium and a licensed Psychotherapist practicing with celebrities, corporate executives, entrepreneurs, politicians as well as individuals, couples and families. Her specialties involve her work with trauma, loss, grief counseling, changes, transitions, fear of death and life purpose. A major goal of Kellee’s work is to heal the soul, which often includes messages from loved ones who have passed on to the other side. Kellee uses many lenses in her sessions for viewing the soul that include astrology, numerology and psychic ability. A session with Kellee might well be the most exciting, informative, healing hour of your life!

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James Van Praagh:

Hello everybody, and welcome to Life at the death of beyond. With James van Praag, I'm your host with Kelly white,

Kellee White:

hi everybody. Hi James.

James Van Praagh:

So we are here, those who can see us and those are listening. It's been a very interesting week. Yes,

Kellee White:

oh, you betcha.

James Van Praagh:

So Mercury's in retrograde. When did it go in retrograde? Tim,

Kellee White:

it went on the fifth of August, and it'll go and stays retrograde until the 28th of August, so virtually all of August. And

James Van Praagh:

that means some, some examples of that might mean what? Miscommunication?

Kellee White:

Miscommunications? Things will break down. Travel will be difficult. Things won't work, right? It's not a time delays, delays, not a time to buy, really anything big, not a time to sign a contract. It's time to renew and re go, you know, go back into your life and look with things, you know, things that you might have to redo.

James Van Praagh:

But yes, I was just like earlier. I just got my internet recharged, because it's always bad signaling the guy said, Oh, it's fine. Now it's about three walls away, but I guess it's okay. And signals to death, but, and, also I thought I said to you, I think early in the weekend, they said to you, I feel like we're Mercury all the time. It just feels like yeah, or mercury is like nothing compared to what it's like now it Yeah. It

Kellee White:

certainly does feel that way. Because we have also James, we have several planets in retrograde, not just mercury. Well, before we go

James Van Praagh:

there, we should tell people that because of Mercury Retrograde, our special guest, Linda Patman. Doctor Linda Backman, pass up for breakfast. Could not make it because she couldn't get on the internet.

Kellee White:

The internet is not working, and so she couldn't be on. So I'm I'm as disappointed as anybody else. I'm a huge, huge fan of Doctor Linda's huge fan, and I'm so excited to have her on, but we will have to carry on. James and I are going to talk a little bit about the astrology and what's going on, and we will hope to see Linda in the future in the next few weeks. You know,

James Van Praagh:

it's very interesting everybody when these things happen. And Kelly and I talk about a lot, and we get these oppositions or things happen challenging. I think they're always, I kind of think always, it's been opportunities and to remind us that everything happens in divine time. It's like perfect timing that thing, even though it looked like it, yes, got to be divine because,

Kellee White:

yes,

James Van Praagh:

it has to be the intelligence.

Kellee White:

Yeah. I mean, it really has a lot to do with slowing down, although it feels like the energy is speeding up, speeding up. I

James Van Praagh:

felt like I was a slice or dicer for the past two days. Like, Wow, that's great.

Kellee White:

Well, you know, I just survived a hurricane. So yeah, last week

James Van Praagh:

you were on here, and because you were, you were stuck in

Kellee White:

hurricane. Debbie, yeah, Savannah, Georgia, on an island, and it was, we had a hurricane. And we also, at the same time had a tornado between the islands that I was on. And it was a pretty it was the most challenging thing. I've been through major earthquakes in Los Angeles, major earthquakes. I've been through tornados. This was I'd never been through a hurricane. And I have to say, wait hats out to anybody who has survived all these hurricanes. So very, very frightening, very frightening. And there was a

James Van Praagh:

tornado, and you had a flood, and you had issues with family, and you had

Kellee White:

you power out. My grandchildren were there. It was

James Van Praagh:

Kelly said all these things to these horrible things that she goes, and there's a white shark out in the water. That's the white shark. I'll

Kellee White:

take the Great White. My money's on the Great White

James Van Praagh:

everybody's been having a lots of stuff. I'm dealing with people that are dying and helping people

Kellee White:

over Yes, you are very good friend, actually, very good friend. One year, I

James Van Praagh:

would be here today with Adam. So yeah, it's very true. Yeah. It's been a very interesting time for everybody now, emotionally and physically and lot of health issues going on with people. So astrologic astrology,

Kellee White:

in Vedic Astrology, we have a lot of things going on, and I'll just start with a couple of big ones. But just so everybody knows, not only Mercury is retrograde, but James Saturn is retrograde until November 15. And so Saturn makes people it. Saturn is work and health and karma, but it makes people feel what is retrograde. It's stronger in Vedic Astrology, it's stronger and it makes people feel burned out, stuck, possibly anxious. Have you noticed so many people are anxious right now?

James Van Praagh:

I noticed that. Anyway, I just sit in my car in the park and watch people go by, like, wow,

Kellee White:

right? Yeah, also, you're gonna see the really irritable. You're gonna see a lot of irritability too, which is not a good thing. But 15th, yeah, until November 15. Yeah, November 5, November, November 15. So, and remember James, the election is November 4 or fifth. So. So that's, you know, a while back. So also happened now and then. A lot is going to happen between now and then, yeah, Pluto is retrograde, also until october 11. And Pluto represents rebirth, renewal, transformation. So this is a big one.

James Van Praagh:

Kelly, it's not the underneath. Is that? Is that Uranus underneath? The underneath, or is that Pluto?

Kellee White:

No, that's Pluto. Pluto is the underworld. The Underworld, the underworld.

James Van Praagh:

There could be a lot of like, I'm just going to say it, like, assassinations, attempts on lives, yes, explosions, things like, yeah,

Kellee White:

yes, absolutely, absolutely, can

James Van Praagh:

happen. I'm covering the underworld, recovering theft. Crimes, things like that are going to happen, right,

Kellee White:

right? Well, also Neptune is retrograde until December 7. So Neptune represents dreams and illusions. But when it's retrograde, James, what happens is everything that has clouded your vision on somebody, you're going to go, Oh my God, you really are an addict. Or, oh my god, you really are personality disorder. Or, oh my god, I you know, you can't hide it. When it's retrograde, it for Neptune. You will see the people that you're with. You'll see you'll see them for who they really are. And

James Van Praagh:

Kelly, Neptune, retrograde. Neptune. Would that also be people should pay if, let's say they're very clairvoyant or they just haven't really paid attention to their dreams, but now be a very good time for them. Yes.

Kellee White:

And great question, yes, yes, yes, because compassion when it's retrograde is huge. And here's another one, spiritual spirituality. So if you are working on your psychic ability or your astrology or your spiritualness, this is excellent time for this. Because, why? Because we will all be tested during the next several months. I made the kind of test that you go, Wait a minute. Did I sign up for this? Yes, yes, you did. You signed up for this? Yeah,

James Van Praagh:

I used to say it was like a year ago. I think I said to it's like bumper cars. Now it's like, this is not even, not even track.

Kellee White:

It is like bumper cars. James, in fact, having said that when Mercury is retrograde with all these other planets, please, everybody, drive carefully. Don't drive like a bat out of hell. Drive careful. Don't be irritable. That's exactly it. If you get into a car, drive responsibly and calmly, because not everybody is going to be doing that. No,

James Van Praagh:

most aren't. Hey, question for you, you mentioned this last time where I spoke about this, because of all these Retrogrades of the planets, isn't there something about the sun that the sun's not as effective as it, as it usually is, because, well,

Kellee White:

it it was not as effective, but now it's back on the 16th, it will be in full power. Now let me just talk about that. So, good thing that you asked. Let me just tell you what starts tomorrow. So August 13 is tomorrow, and August is it? Because I don't even know date. Is it? I know you don't, honey, August 13 to August 17. We've got quite a few things that are going to be happen. That's August 13 through the 17th. So Mars and Jupiter, huge planets. Jupiter is huge, and Mars is, you know, Mars is war, Mars is energy, and Jupiter is the spiritual guru. But they are conjunct in what is called a planetary war. And let me explain that. Wow, when Mars and Jupiter, they normally are considered in Vedic Astrology, benefic planets, they get along, except when they get too close to each other, it brings conflict. So it's going to be in Vedic Astrology, they're going to be coming together at 22 degrees of Taurus, and that is, it means that passions can turn toxic. The world is going to have height, heightening economic situation, political chaos, disputes. It's a very rough time that we're walking into Ellie, one of the dates to that mark starting tomorrow, August 13. Tomorrow, honey, in about 10 hours. Great, August. Oh my gosh, but on August 16, we have August 16. Excuse me, Kelly's 13th to 16th to the 17th, 17th. Okay, now on August 16, for until September 16. So for one month, we have the sun, which you were asking about. Now it's in Leo and Vedic Astrology and the Sun and Saturn, the planet Saturn, are in mutual opposition during that time. So this will bring protests and power struggles, because they're two opposite energies, and it's something like each other. They they do not. And it's interesting, because in Vedic Astrology, the sun represents the leader. So we're going to just turn my

James Van Praagh:

head. Some kind of tyranny. Oh, boy, yeah, I know what that means. But well, it

Kellee White:

represents government. It represents power and and the Sun and Saturn, I should say, is in Aquarius, which is ruled, actually by Saturn also. So there's so much power that these two have opposing each other, it will bring political struggle on a large scale, large scale protest, large scale. And it's also on top of that, it overlaps with Uranus. So Uranus represents suddenness. So there could be a war that comes in to do with because Jupiter has to do with religion also, and it could be with Mars. Is War Uranus is sudden. We're looking at probably Iran and Israel right now, because it could bring, like a thing, a war between, like radicalists, is what I'm saying. This is a very rough time, like, if this happened

James Van Praagh:

during the transition, let's say of the election of our country. This

Kellee White:

will happen before. If there is one, this will happen before, James. This will happen sooner than we very soon. This is a very rough time. Yeah, and there, there's another thing to it that I want to match again on August 16. So this next window that we have is intense because we also have Mars squaring Saturn, and that is that could have, you know, another piece of paper, you know, when you get me talking, wow, yeah, it's, you know, I can always send it to you.

James Van Praagh:

I'll send it to you. Take in. I just found out what date it was. It date it was. It's,

Kellee White:

it is a lot to take in. But Mars in Taurus in Vedic Astrology, it's a Taurus, and it's going to square Saturn in Aquarius. And that's an exact square on August 16. So that will have to do with could be terror attacks. It could be riots, it could be political upheaval the next week. I mean, if I we really, you know, look back at this upcoming week, the energy will be very fierce and very chaotic. So

James Van Praagh:

Kelly, let me ask you a question. First of all, astrologically, we see all this and all those energies. Is there a way that we as humans, as beings, here in this earth, can change things up by our thoughts, by changing things, bringing love. And I would

Kellee White:

love to say yes. I'm going to say yes as a yes. I think that that's a great way to to expand our energy and to put out love, loving thoughts, loving kindness, compassion we all want.

James Van Praagh:

I mean, it's good, it's going to go out there, it's going to go exactly,

Kellee White:

exactly. And so I'm glad you asked that question. Yes, I agree. And, you know, it's funny, James, on August 19, we have a super full moon. It's called a super moon, and that we can have a lot of gratitude for, because this is going to be, it's that full moon, it's a super moon. It's has a lot to do with, you know, I earthquakes and storms and shocking events and but on the other hand, of it, there's something about the having gratitude and kindness and compassion that comes with it. You know, Earth is a duality school, you know. So we can have love and kindness and we can have riots. We can't have loving kindness, and we can have earthquakes, you know, but we're here to learn that's we come to earth to practice our skills, frankly, right?

James Van Praagh:

One of your predictions came true last night. La had an earthquake. So

Kellee White:

that's not even the bigger one that I'm thinking. I know it was today. It was today, actually 4.7 I think in Pasadena. Yeah, everybody I know is really kind of shook em up.

James Van Praagh:

So grounding would help us in some Yes, with the ground ourselves and yes, I mean, I lie down

Kellee White:

the grass because it's just, let's talk about that. James, what's the best way for people to ground themselves in this chaotic energy, especially for our empaths out there.

James Van Praagh:

So I did let two years ago, I did star seed a show on YouTube. It's on my channel, and I hope the whole episode on grounding. And it's all different easy ways. As far as foods that you eat, it can wherever your food you're eating, taste the food every step you take. Feel the ground below you and lay down the ground. Hold on. Guide by a tree, hold the branch, feel the energy there, connect with the center of Mother Earth, and we're made from it. And Mother Earth creates life and nurtures us. And that really is true. And take that, nurture the energy that she has. Otherwise we'll get caught in their heads and we too much for the head. You know,

Kellee White:

it's interesting that you said that, because this energy does bring up a lot of anxiety for people. So really, what you're doing is giving people tools to to ground themselves, to calm themselves. I listen to music all day long. I have certain songs that I just hit on repeat. Now

James Van Praagh:

I just dance by myself. It's

Kellee White:

great. You've always done that. Oh yeah. I love it. Yeah. And

James Van Praagh:

also, I think that, you know, one thing I learned, especially when I have visions, and the visions I've had, I've been. Great visions about the world, the different places of people, whatever it is, and I just gotta step back and be objective. So I'm watching a movie going on. I'm not emotionally attached to that because I can't be because we can do what's gonna do. People gonna be what they're gonna be, but I can take care of myself and step back and be very objective about watching it. Now they don't care. Of course they do. But I'm just watching this, because this is an illusion, this earth in this world. Yes,

Kellee White:

yeah, yes. Now. Renee Rossiter, hi, Renee, she says, she says, I have a question about chakras with Retrogrades. She said, It's a great question. She said, Can we spin our chakras in the opposite directions to push the negative energy away like a filter, yes, yes, yes. Great idea. Great idea.

James Van Praagh:

I would also say that propels by the mind. So keep your mind and happy. Thoughts, moving thoughts, speeding thoughts. Yeah,

Kellee White:

it does help James, really, and having good yeah, let's questions. Go out and weed the garden. Very true.

James Van Praagh:

I go pick some fruit. I have a fruit tree. I some fruit trees where I am

Kellee White:

now. Are you doing peaches

James Van Praagh:

this? Yeah. So this is like, you know, everyday life so beautiful, sunset and peach trees out, peaches like, Oh, I got a peach. Bring Pearl out, walking, grab peach to eat it and stand by a bee. I pulled out the stinger. Oh, well, they gotta eat too.

Kellee White:

Oh, honey, I'm so sorry, because you have the best peaches. Well,

James Van Praagh:

I'm the most reluctable one. That's what

Kellee White:

they That's hilarious. I mean, oh my gosh. Um, Cheryl Wharton says, James, can we have a few minutes of a group meditation incorporated in these sessions.

James Van Praagh:

I'm not in the mood today. I'm really not. If I was, I would do it, but I'm

Kellee White:

not. But maybe you do it during a Facebook Live or something this week, during Facebook Live, I'll

James Van Praagh:

do it this week. But right now, I'm just after we Yeah, I'm just kind of easing, I totally anything, and then I've have a meeting after this I have to go to so I'm just kind of, if you forgive me, it's going to show once I found our guest said, internet problems together, yeah, oh, yeah. But I don't want to Facebook Lives this. I'm doing a lot of Facebook Lives though. Three

Kellee White:

are you? Yeah? Fantastic. Fantastic. Somebody said James and the Giant Peach. That was my favorite book. Jan Hennessy, I love that book. I love that story. That was a great one. I'm

James Van Praagh:

thinking of doing my writers course in the in the fall. So let everyone know about that. It's a great published books already.

Kellee White:

Yay. Congrats. That's fantastic. Lisa says, is the veil very thin now I feel, Oh, absolutely. And I listen, we need as much help as we can from the other side during the next several everybody about our

James Van Praagh:

time in Chicago together. Did we mention that? We did. We

Kellee White:

talked about very little. We had a great experience. It was, I don't think

James Van Praagh:

we didn't I think this group needs to hear about your first reading, because Kelly and I got together and we did a demonstration for the first time, really, in a long, long time, the covid ship. But Kelly, I think I'm not sure if we spoke about or not, but

Kellee White:

because we haven't done a show together live, I

James Van Praagh:

am. We were doing Fox News and CBS in the morning shows promote the event in Chicago Good evening. And Kelly was there with me, and we're taking pictures. And maybe the first one was CBS, right Kelly, and first

Kellee White:

one you did was CBS, and you went right to to the and

James Van Praagh:

get right in there. I

Kellee White:

thought she was, she was stunned.

James Van Praagh:

I know journalists, and I know what they're sarcastic. I mean, I've been around I've been through Oprah's, I've been through the newspaper holding. I don't care, so I just don't want them to feel like scared, who will, right? So I tried as compassionate as possible. But yeah, she has some interesting all set to say certain things. And then her father showed up. I said, is her father behind you?

Kellee White:

I was witnessing this. She shook, oh, my God. It was great. It was

James Van Praagh:

and then we did another show, and it was at

Kellee White:

went to Fox after that, and

James Van Praagh:

it was same time. And then we went to Kelly, want your friend? Tell them. Tell us what happened. Well,

Kellee White:

then we had an interesting experience. James and I went to talk about when we went to lunch. And then, yeah, breakfast, with the winter breakfast, and we were having a lovely omelet. We both always have said to order the same thing, and we both eat in an omelet. And then, and I'm sorry if this is upsetting, but this is what happened. A woman came over sitting outside, and a woman came over to our table and pointed at my omelet, and I realized quickly that she was mentally ill and she was hungry, and I was thinking, Should I give her money? And then she said, we both have the same thought. And I would have done that, but she said, I I want your food.

James Van Praagh:

No, she said food. And she pointed food.

Kellee White:

And I said, Okay, so I gave her my omelet, and then grabbed it, and

James Van Praagh:

then grabbing it, what did I do? His plate

Kellee White:

and puts it on another table for her so and gets her some silverware. You were so sweet and kind. Yeah, I mean, it was, it was unbelievable. So we gave her our food, and then she ate, and then she left, and then, but then the manager came over, and the manager said, Oh, that's so disgusting. I'm so sorry. And we both said, it's not disgusting, it's okay. We're okay. And he said, Oh, I have to comp your meal. And we said, no, no, it's okay. Really, it was. It was an interesting experience, right?

James Van Praagh:

And I said to Kelly earlier in the day, I said, you know that we have to remind ourselves that today, anything that happens that'll be used for a reading tonight when I do a demonstration, and that always happens when you're working in a platform the day of you really gotta pay really, particularly pay attention to everything will fill your mind with these things.

Kellee White:

So we went to our event at the Gordon theater, a beautiful theater, and we were there, and James said, Kelly, why don't you start? So I said, I told everybody this story, and I said, I have a man. I have a brother who's on the other side, and he's coming through to a sister that's here. And I pointed in the right direction, and I knew I was right there. And he's with a woman named Mary. And it turns out a woman raised her was shocked and floored, and I described this person as the brother who died, as somebody who was homeless, somebody who had been, you know, either on drugs or alcohol, was homeless and passed away that way, and there were a lot of issues. And he really wanted to come through and apologize and and really talk about, he wanted the audience really to understand that, that he's with the highest possible guide, but this, this happened, and for the family to have some understanding of what happened. And anyway, it it shocked the family that was there, I would say, well,

James Van Praagh:

and everybody in the audience is affected by and to show you, everybody what happens is they use that space of that they worked, and have that lady come to our table and take the food, and yes, they use that space to create that. And then that was able to be used in the reading, because that was our consciousness. And that happens, particularly also in platform mediumship, when you're working also this bird will say something about, you know, this book, name of a book or something, and that'll open that space. Then somebody, a librarian, might come through for somebody else, or it opens up their spaces all around. Yes,

Kellee White:

it really does, James, I mean, for everything that we did that day in the just a few days before. And you know, the another thing that happened, James is, you may recall, I had the weirdest thing happen a week before. I know, I know next month, yes, my book comes out the first week in September. I'm so excited. Thank you so much. I'm so excited about it. Um, but I had a man that came to me the week before, came to what I was getting up, it's early in the morning, and he said to me, would you please give a message to my wife, my wife and daughter are coming to your event, and my name is so and so i i died this way. And I mean, I mean, full all these details. And I said, Well, can you come back, you know, in a few days? And I did. I didn't forget, but when I and I brought this out, and of course, the the wife and the daughter were there, everything that I said, and she said, What day did he come to you? And I said, it was Sunday morning. And she said, that's when we bought our tickets. So it was, it was a and then we did a meet and greet afterwards.

James Van Praagh:

Well, wait, that's all about the nun. So I was, Oh, I was going to tell you about my actually, we're going to go visit cemetery. My aunt and the cousins are, and all the rest of them in upstate New York. And for that'll be after the Chicago trip. And so, you know, my one nun, my one team, my aunt was my close one. She was actually a nun, and he told the whole story about that. Well, then I was working, and also they looked to the row, and there were five nuns and all these different habits. I'm like, okay, they're all these nuns over here, but I have an aunt who belongs son, who was her aunt, who was a nun, and she left, and sure enough, there was the person, right?

Kellee White:

It was unbelievable, James, you had five little nuns, right there, five. Wow. It was unbelievable. I mean, the way that spirit set everything up, yeah, because the whole nun thing that was amazing, and then the whole motorcycle thing that I kept hearing the motorcycle behind me, and then there were like, three people right sitting next to each other that had lost their loved ones from a motorcycle accident. Well,

James Van Praagh:

it's so weird how that all works. But you need to tell the story. You have to, because this is one which I don't even put in the book. I don't think it did about on my on my cruise that you went with your stepmom. Oh, that. And that is a great example of how spirit being told I did put that in my book. You did okay.

Kellee White:

I did mine. Okay. Now I'll tell the story. So how many years ago was that Alaska tree? At 678,

James Van Praagh:

what's today's date? Yeah, yeah.

Kellee White:

I know that was a few years ago. Yeah, we were going to go. James was doing a trip in Alaska, and I asked my stepmother who my father had just my father had died a year before. And I said, you know, Judy, why don't you come on the show? Why don't you come on to this cruise with us? And she said, You know, I would really like to do this, and this was not her thing, but she said, I'd really like to go with you. So So Judy to traditionally, she my stepmother would always be late. And I said to her, Look, we cannot be late. James starts at 10. He knows I get there at nine. I have to have my seat. I have to sit in front that. And she said, Don't worry, I will be there at nine o'clock. And I said, I mean it, because even though it doesn't start till 10, I have to be there at nine o'clock. And she said, Okay, and so off we went, early in the morning, through hill and dale on this damn ship, trying to get to the to the room at nine o'clock. But that's not what happened every moment I got blocked by somebody wanting to talk to me. The elevator was out, that this was out. We didn't get there until five minutes after 10 a one hour. Can you imagine when we walked into that space? I'll never forget the look on your face. You're like, the Where were you? And I'm like, and there were two seats

James Van Praagh:

left, and Kelly, I didn't remember, because I'm in that space. You're already in a space. Yeah,

Kellee White:

there were two seats left, and there was, they were next to each other, but they were way in the back. And and I do not like to sit in the back, but we had no choice. We Judy and I had to sit in the back, whatever. And James, you started the program, and you said, Okay, now turn to the person next to you, so I was going to work with my stepmother. And you said, if you know them, you can't talk to them. You have to fix somebody new. So Judy turned to the woman next to her. I turned to the some lady next to me. And then you started the exercise. And I forget the exercise, but it was a big do you remember what the

James Van Praagh:

exercise was? It was a mediumship exercise, and you have to turn your partner, and the partner gives you, because it's a workshop, the name of a person in a context relationship and a personality trait, that's all they can give you. And the person has to work through all that and get the information after

Kellee White:

the recent sitter. Okay, so that's what happened? And then, so that was about an hour's worth of stuff. And then you said, Alright, does anybody want to share I see my stepmother go like, Yes. And she like, Yes, I do. I'm like, What? What happened? And here's what happened, folks, it was unbelievable. The woman that she partnered with. It turns out that both of them lost their husbands on the same day a year ago. Both husbands were named Lee. Both husbands were trumpet players, and both husbands performed together. Now how can that be? Because had I been there on time that I thought on time at 9am we wouldn't have known that person. She wouldn't have met her. But that's how Spirit did it. That's how my dad and the other lady put Judy with her. And do you know that Judy to this day, James, they're still friends. Oh, wow.

James Van Praagh:

Wow. It's amazing. So you gotta remember that everybody. You just gotta remember this. There's a divine plan, and the more we just open ourselves up to whatever surrendering. We can let life happen. We can't, you know, you can't control others. Can't control things. Just let yourself Do the best you can. That's really all it's about. Really, it's very, very important.

Kellee White:

That's really all you can do. And let go and literally, let it all happen, let it all unfold.

James Van Praagh:

Let them be in charge. You know, we're here. Let them be in charge of us. You know, as long as we do good things, we're compassionate, kind and faith and, you know, minds in a good space,

Kellee White:

we let them progress. It's true, absolutely. So I have an exercise

James Van Praagh:

for people to do tonight. Kelly, instead of the meditation that they want, there's an exercise all of you to do tonight before you go to sleep. That's a good one. Okay, okay. So what you're going to do tonight is, I want you to either put a chair in front of a mirror in a bathroom mirror, or a regular mirror, just you can sit there. You should. You should be seated when you do this, and make sure the reflection of yours right there. And what I want you to do is make sure it's a dim light and in your mind, I want you to set up a call, if you will, an intention that I would like to be shown significant past lives of mine, significant, in other words, the most important for this lifetime here, however you want to word that, but the intention should be that I'm seeing, I'm actually going to see where this Transfiguration, we call it, where there'll be a it's so funny, because your eyes might change, your hairline will change. It's really interesting. And maybe have a journal to the side of you, because we write down something and then go back into it space. Then. Get into that space with the breath. Remember, everything is with the breath. So I always like to say, you know, breathe in three count of three through the nose and let the breath ride all the way down your feet and beyond, and exhale out your mouth at the count of five. And I was just saying, maybe bring in love, let our fear whatever you want to do, but with each breath, I remember, you know, and that's all you have to do. Don't overthink it and let yourself your eyes will it's called scrying. They'll get tired, and that's when you start seeing things change. Don't try so hard feeling important. So I've done this many times, and people that are sitting around see the same thing, the images shift. I was doing this once with my former partner, Brian, and so interesting is gazing each other's eyes, and afterwards, you know, we had to discuss what we got is because, yeah, I didn't get much because I saw him as a Buddhist monk and he's, I said, Yeah, what you gotta go, yeah, I didn't get mine. I just saw you as a Buddhist monk. So we're together in that lifetime. Wow, that's when I was growing him. I saw him as a soldier in war, and I knew that I was a prostitute friend in Paris, and that he would go off to war, come back and meet me, and then he go off to one. I was in love with him, but I couldn't say anything, because I was, I was a lady of the night, you know, couldn't say anything. Says afraid. It's one love. It's very interesting. So you will have that if you write your intentions, but don't overthink it. Everybody that's really important. You don't overthink it, right? Okay,

Kellee White:

wow. I think that

James Van Praagh:

is so great. Hey, Melissa said something here, which I wanna go back to when she's talking about corogenics, which I find a fascinating topic, paragenic I just looked at a documentary on the other day. You know, keeping the body alive, the heart alive, yeah,

Kellee White:

think about that. Well, I

James Van Praagh:

think we're souls having human experience. We're not physical beings. So I don't know what the point of that would be, because we're so much more than this physical body, and there's much bigger, grander, more expensive life or lives than this one. This is just a bleep in the scheme of things. So I mean, that's fine, but I personally haven't put a lot into it, because I'm a soul experience, and when this human experience is over, I'm out of

Kellee White:

here. You mean freezing your head's not going to keep

James Van Praagh:

you here. These things as humans, you like to think we're in control and all these things. That's a human part of us, but you know, the human part is very tiny compared to our terminal selves. So true.

Kellee White:

Yeah, so true. Oh my gosh, wow.

James Van Praagh:

Yeah, that's there we go. So Kelly, um, we're going to Scoodle down, I guess, and we'll be back next week with who's our guest next week? Next

Kellee White:

week, I'll tell you, we have a wonderful, oh, we have a wonderful guest next week. This Her name is, I forget her first name, well, her name is Lauren, but I can't remember her last name right now. I'm so sorry, but she does taro P, so let me just set the stage here. She's a therapist who works with Tarot cards, and her book is called taro P, and she's amazing. Shirley, doctor, Shirley had a session with her, and she said, Kelly, she's unbelievable. Wow. I'm so excited to have her and I have her book and, oh, it's going to be a great show.

James Van Praagh:

Oh, wouldn't that be fun? Just a group regression from when she comes back laughs because she wouldn't mind doing that for everybody. Everybody? Because she couldn't make it tonight, maybe thank you to you guys for being here. We'll ask her if she wouldn't mind doing that

Kellee White:

for. Mind doing that for and

James Van Praagh:

thanks for the great questions. Thank you very much.

Kellee White:

Thanks. Kelly, see you guys later. You.