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Soul Lessons Learned with Alex Ferrari From Next Level Soul | James Van Praagh

• James Van Praagh • Season 1 • Episode 14

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The man who hears it ALL. Join us as Alex Ferrari shares his top soul lessons he’s learned from the best spiritual leaders around the world while hosting Next Level Soul- this changed his life!
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Is your soul ready to level up? Well if you’re already here, IT IS! Join us as we sit down with Alex Ferrari from Next Level Soul as he shares the top soul lessons he’s learned from the best spiritual leaders around the world! After speaking with some of the world’s most prestigious thought leaders, what has really changed his life? What is out there that everyone needs to know? Tune in to find out!
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About Today's Guest - Alex Ferrari:

Next Level Soul founder Alex Ferrari is a #1 best-selling author, podcaster, speaker, entrepreneur, & filmmaker. Throughout his life, Alex always asked the big questions; Why are we here? Is this all there is? What is my soul's mission in this life? He developed Next Level Soul to help people around the world get closer to their own higher power to look inward for the answers they are searching for.
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More About James:

James Van Praagh is hailed worldwide as a pioneer of the mediumship movement and is considered one of the most widely recognized and accurate spiritual mediums working today.

A “survival evidence medium,” he provides evidential proof of life after death through highly detailed messages from the spiritual realm. He is recognized annually on Watkins List of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People – a prestigious list of spiritual teachers, activists, authors, and thinkers.

For over three decades, Van Praagh’s messages have brought comfort and peace to millions. He has worked with international heads of state, religious world leaders, and celebrities including Cher, Goldie Hawn, Shirley Maclaine, Ellen DeGeneres, Joan Rivers, Katie Couric, Loretta Lynn, Chelsea Handler, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Wesley Snipes, and so many more. 

Throughout his career, James Van Praagh has appeared on countless national radio and television shows including The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King Live, Dr. Phil, 48 Hours, The View, The Joy Behar Show, Chelsea Lately, Coast to Coast AM, and many more. 
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Kellee White is a Spiritual Medium and a licensed Psychotherapist practicing with celebrities, corporate executives, entrepreneurs, politicians as well as individuals, couples and families. Her specialties involve her work with trauma, loss, grief counseling, changes, transitions, fear of death, and life purpose. A major goal of Kellee’s work is to heal the soul, which often includes messages from loved ones who have passed on to the other side. Kellee uses many lenses in her sessions for viewing the soul that include astrology, numerology, and psychic ability. A session with Kellee might well be the most exciting, informative, healing hour of your life!

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James Van Praagh:

Hi everybody. This is James. I'm proud and welcome life after death and beyond. And I'm wearing this hat tonight for a special reason. I'll say in a second, our love to Kelly. Kelly White is right now on an island of Georgia visiting her family, and of course, Kelly is experiencing hurricanes and tornado tornadoes and floods. So we love you, Kelly. Good luck. My goodness, what a year it's been. So tonight's guest is a very special person that I met recently, and he's a wonderful podcast, and it's called next level soul. And I was a guest on his podcast several times, and I find that Alex Ferrari was one of the easiest people to talk with, and also one that is it goes deep with every topic. So it's my honor to bring this wonderful guest on Alex Ferrari. Hello, Alex. Hello, hello,

Alex Ferrari:

James, how are you? Thank you, So. I'm trying to for all the hosts in the spiritual space to start wearing hats. That's my goal. I'm bringing it back, baby. And I do have hair. Everybody. I do have hair because a lot of people don't know. Look, there it is. I just choose to wear my

James Van Praagh:

hat. So, I mean, we met each other, probably, but within a year, about

Alex Ferrari:

a year, year, and change it goes, when you came onto the show the first time, and then it the episode exploded, and you were like, what's going on? I'm like, I don't know. And and then you came on again, and you know, the episode did very well, and we've become good friends since then. Yeah, we both, as they say, walked over the same bodies in Hollywood on the battlefield. So I

James Van Praagh:

wanted to start with you. Your background in Hollywood, you were in the film business for a while. Like, how did that get started?

Alex Ferrari:

So I worked in a video store. Back in the days I started working. I was working or No, I did a mom and pop I was a mom and pop shop. I never worked for the Eve blockbuster. They're the ones that screwed all those little guys. They got theirs at the end. But I worked at a video store since I was 14. I worked on I was a manager at 15, and I fell in love with movies, really then, and I always liked movies, but movies were the I mean, it was just so magical to me. And I started collecting VHS, and by the time I was out of high school, I had around 3000 VHS in my collection, and I was trying to figure out what I was going to do with my life. And I looked around my room one day, I said, Hey, I think I'm going to be a director. And my mom, my I told my mom, and my mom said, Let's go to film school. And it's exactly what we did. We went to film school and raised in California, somewhere else. No, no. I was raised in Miami. I was raised in Fort Lauderdale. Fort Lauderdale area, so South Florida. So I was down there and went to school in Orlando and Film School in Orlando, and I didn't come out to LA till 2008 is when I went out to LA. I was out there for about 13 years, and that's when I kind of built my career. The beginnings of my career in South Florida. And I did a lot of commercial work and editing work and things like that. Did commercials, music videos, short films and things like that, directing them. But everything when you, when you live in South Florida, as you kind of gotta not just go, I just direct. No, you gotta kind of do everything all the time in order to in order to eat. So I was an editor. I became a colorist. I was a post supervisor, VFX supervisor. I did, I did a little bit of lighting, by say, I'm a dp by any stretch, but I did a little bit of that work. And then I just started directing my own stuff. But I got my first job was in the tape vault in a the biggest commercial production house in the southeast, and I was able to I was editing demo reels back in the down three quarter inch I am, and sending them out on FedEx and things like that for to get jobs for director. So I kind of fell in love with commercial work. Then I was coming up around the time of David Fincher, Michael Bay, Spike Jones, that whole commercial crew into the feature world. I was coming up around that time. So that's how I kind of fell in love with with movies. And then you moved to Los Angeles, and I moved in Los Angeles, 2008 started working there, and they started working as a director. Started off essentially as a is my wife and I, who was my wife at the time, and we had a little, a little apartment in North Hollywood, and we had two bedrooms. One was our sleeping bedroom, the other one was my edit suite, and I would bring in i. I would bring in. I mean, I, at the time, I had no idea, but, you know, I met Justin Bieber when he was like a 15 year old kid who had never No. Six months later, he's huge. I had actors coming in. I had big directors coming into my house in North Hollywood. It's a very la thing, you know, yeah, you can have an Oscar winner, like, Yeah, we're gonna go to the back of his house to mix his invalid we're going to Encino for that. So that was kind of the way I got started. And then slowly but surely, I started working a lot and and then started directing more and more. Did some TV. I did some again, more commercials, more music videos. And then did my first features, did some feature work later on in when I launched my other podcast, which we get into, but that's kind of where I got started in the film industry. Oh and oh, there was a time to that I almost made a $20 million movie for the mafia. There was that. There was that whole that I forgot. I kind of skipped over that when I was 26 for it. It's called shooting for the mob. Yeah, I did. I got caught up with this gangster in South Florida, yes, and he, we almost made a $20 million movie about his life. And we, you know, my life was being threatened. He was bipolar. He probably

James Van Praagh:

dodged a bullet, is what I'm thinking. Many

Alex Ferrari:

actually, yeah, but, but the thing was, though that story was interesting enough. I mean, our production offices, Jim, we're in a racetrack from 1950s you could smell the cancer coming from the you could hear it coming in. So we I did that, but then Hollywood took this guy seriously, and I was flown out to LA and I met the biggest movie stars in the world. I met the biggest producers in the world. I'm at the chat Marmon. I'm at the ivy, I'm at spagos. I'm 20. I'm at like, you know, the Hollywood Hills and these billion dollar producers houses, the stories I heard, the things I saw. I even got to meet Batman. I went to Batman's house, one of the actors who played Batman, and flew out to his house, hung out with him. It's just insane, that whole story while my life is being threatened. So can you imagine being so close to your dream, literally, like, you know, a foot or two away with Batman saying, I'm going to be in your movie. I mean, seriously, at the time, where that actor was the biggest, one of the biggest stars in the world, and then your life's being threatened by a bipolar, bipolar psychotic, you know, gangster. So that kind of threw me off for a loop for a while, and I didn't, I didn't direct pry for I didn't touch a camera for about two years afterwards,

James Van Praagh:

I would say, when did you then go back move out of Hollywood? I

Alex Ferrari:

left la about three and a half years ago. We moved to Austin. My what? My family and I moved to Austin. You

James Van Praagh:

had your first podcast then? Or was it just, Oh, yeah.

Alex Ferrari:

We launched our first podcast in 2015 so that podcast, indie film hustle. Yeah. So this is the original set that we had when I moved out here. It's called. It was called indie film hustle. And the the the it was about filmmaking and screenwriting and distribution and everything about just, basically the indie film hustle. And then in that, up in that show, I spoke to Oscar winners. I had Oliver Stone on the show. Had, you know, Eva Longoria, a lot of big stars, a lot of big people came on after many, many years of hustling, until I got big enough that they would come on the show, and I got to meet amazing people through the show. Then I opened up a screenwriting podcast. And both of those shows became number one in their space, and still, arguably are some of the biggest in the space, even right now, even though I'm not doing them anymore, they're still kind of going with repeats and things like that. And it's still going, because it was just really nothing out there like it, and I just came out really, just as a someone trying to help people wanted to help filmmakers. You know how it is? You know how the business is, it's, it's just brutal. And I have enough shrapnel at that time that I could sit down and say, hey, look, this is what it's really like. I don't know what these other guys are saying, but this is what it's really like out in the field, and this is what's really going to happen. And when you get into this situation, this is what how you should handle it. And within

James Van Praagh:

Alex is your dedication and your passion and work really hard, and you're, you're, you're totally passionate and dedicated to your truth. And I mean anything you do will turn to gold as it is. And when did you switch from that to next level soul? And when did next level soul come up into your creative genius? And you want to switch that? And we always spiritual are we always like interested in this topic? Tell me about that.

Alex Ferrari:

So when, when I was, when I was 23 I met my spiritual guide. She is alive. I always have to preference that she is alive and her name is Connie. She's been on the show four times.

James Van Praagh:

My spiritual guide growing up as Connie. Okay, so they sell

Alex Ferrari:

very well. So weird, isn't it? So, so Connie has been on the show four times. She's still alive and and spicy as hell, and and she's guided me through my spiritual path, essentially throughout my life. Um, always in it. Are

James Van Praagh:

you always asking? I

Alex Ferrari:

always I was I'm a recovering Catholic, so we have that too, yes. So I'm a recovering Catholic, and I always question, you know, I was that guy in Sunday school, you know, in religion class, going, what happened with Jesus when he was 18? I'm just curious. Where was he? Don't ask about these questions, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. So I would, I would be that guy constantly. The nuns hated me. I went to Catholic school, so my son, so I always, kind of was always curious about other philosophies and spiritual paths, and I gravitated towards the Eastern philosophies a lot more, more the Hindu and the Buddhist and the Taoist and the Confucius and and those kind of ideas and philosophies and just thoughts, the systems of thought of those times. And she guided me through a lot of that. She started showing me books, read this book, read that book, and it started, you know, when you read a certain book, it can explode your war or, yeah, and I kept getting those dropped every once in a while. And then she gave me a book called Autobiography of a Yogi. And when I read Autobiography of a Yogi at the first time I read it, I couldn't get through it. It was so far beyond what I could comprehend at that time. It was like, Wait a minute. He's He's bio locating. He's it was so far out of my programming that I couldn't even accept it, and I kind of put the book away, though still always very, very curious about the yogic path and yoga philosophy and things like that. So many years go by and I've always been interested, always reading, always watching documentaries. It was just something I was always into, you know, near death experiences, not deeply, but just always touching as a storyteller, as a filmmaker. That's the fascinated me. History fascinated me. So I wouldn't I dive deep into ancient civilizations, ancient mysteries, that kind of stuff, like how the pyramids get built and and then what's the connection with spirituality and so on. So then to fast forward through all of that, in in I'd say, April or March of 2021, Connie calls me. She's like, okay, Alex, it's time for you to start a spiritual podcast. And I go, I'm sorry, what says? What? And she's like, Yeah, you need, it's time you need to start a spiritual podcast. And I said, Why would I start a spiritual I'm a filmmaker. I have no street cred abilities. I'm not psychic. I'm not a psychic medium. I haven't had a near death experience. I have no street cred and in the spiritual space at all, other than just being a curious guy who's arguably arguably more more well read than most in the space, but still, I'm no expert. I'm no guru or anything like that. And she's like, No, it's time, and this is, this is kind of why you were put here. And I'm

James Van Praagh:

like, one second by saying exactly that, and I totally agree with her, because that natural curiosity of yours is exactly what the everyday person wants to know about whatever level they're on, and it's opening as your podcast now opens to people from just beginning to be a little disbarment path for a long time. So you're that curious person that asked the right questions.

Alex Ferrari:

I appreciate that, and it is, I guess. I mean, from my point of view, I thought that you needed to be a guru. You needed to have some sort of, you

James Van Praagh:

are a guru. You're a teacher guru.

Alex Ferrari:

I know, I know I still have problems with that, but generally, at that time, specifically, I really didn't think I had anything to really, you know, give to this space. And she's like, No, you've got more than you know, and it's time for you to do it, and you have three weeks, and I'm like, I'm sorry, you have what? And she's like, you have three weeks. Easter's coming up, and it's a great day to start a spiritual podcast. And I said, Connie, that's impossible. Um, no one could do that three weeks. She's like, you're right. Not anyone can, but you can, you can. And three weeks later, I had a website, I had a podcast, I had guests, I had next level soul that came to me in a meditation already on this way to being trademarked. I did, I did it all, and I had it all set up and I launched and for the next six months or so, I did an episode a week, an episode every couple weeks, because I was still dipping my toe. In, I reached out to I only knew one, I think one person in the spiritual space was Daryl Anka, the great channel, Bashar, and he came on, the lead singer of Iron Maiden, came into my site and said, Hey, can I come on your show? Not on next level soul. But I said, Hey, do you want to talk about spirituality? He's like, Yeah, sure. And I brought him on. So those episodes kind of exploded and really took off for the for the channel. But I was still very

James Van Praagh:

closeted at that time, and we wanted the platforms we won then with,

Alex Ferrari:

oh, we I was basically just on well when I started next level. So I understood that YouTube was going to be the that was going to be the leading, the leading driver. I just knew that from my experience with the other shows. But I was on YouTube and I didn't know anything about I really didn't know about YouTube. I didn't know how to what it worked, how it worked. Really, I've been on it for years. Actually, I've been on it since 2005 I have one of the oldest movie trailers ever on YouTube, because I've been on it so long, but I, but I really didn't understand the new algorithm or anything like that. So I just knew I just needed to be on it. So I was on Apple. I was on all the all the audio platforms and YouTube, essentially. So when we launched, I was kind of very closeted about this, and I was so scared, because I did not want you know how it is. You can't say much about spirituality or God in Hollywood, because people look at you weird as open and liberal and all that stuff as they are. You can't say stuff like that. And I was afraid of losing my company, my livelihood that I built up with these other shows which I was doing that at this point full time, hadn't really I kind of retired. I shut down my post production house. I wasn't doing any client work anymore, and I would only direct if something tickled my fancy. But I was scared. And then And then, about the last three months, I just stopped. I stopped doing it anyway. I just stopped doing it. I made up things in my head. So, you know what? I got to rebuild these two websites. And I got I'm busy, I'll get back to it. And then around Christmas time in 2021 Connie calls, and Connie says, How's the show going? I'm like, Ah, you know, it's been sitting there. I'll get back to it. Don't worry. And and she's like, look, Alex. And I don't know if I can curse on this, but I have to for historical for historical accuracy, I have to say what she told me. She goes, Alex, you need to shit or get off the pot. Yeah, because this work needs to be done. And you are the choice. The universe has chosen you. I don't mean that in a grandiose way, but your path is you chose this path. If you don't do this work, someone else will, because it has to be done, period, so shit or get off the pot. And I and you know you can imagine

James Van Praagh:

that. And Alex, your imprint, your light, has to be on these projects. They have to be your energy has got to be on the show and your guests, because it's you bringing it forth, your energy bringing it forth. So it had to be you. I agree with her, yeah. So

Alex Ferrari:

I said, Okay. And then I remember sitting down in this office and having a conversation with God. And I said, Okay, God, very kind of almost like challenging source, going, Okay, you want me to do this? I'll go all in, you know, but I pray and have faith that you will take care of me and my family and provide for us. But I'll go all in. I'll build a set in the other side of this office. I will get, I'll get a new camera. I will do this seriously and because if anyone knows the amount of output of content that I do once every other week, you know I'm not in it. So then I started doing two a week, then three a week, and then it eventually went to four a week. And because I was like, Okay, if we're going to do this, let's do this right? I want this catalog to grow very quickly. I want to learn. I want to grow. And every time I put out a new episode, I'm growing, I'm learning. I'm growing, I'm growing, and I'm expanding the reach of what I'm doing. So I did that, and in January of 2022, we had 800 subscribers. We hadn't even been monetized yet. I wasn't even able to make money yet on YouTube. By the end of the year we, I think we had already broken 100,000 Wow. And now we're at 875,800

James Van Praagh:

75,000 and you're all around the world. Tell it. Tell everybody about that, please. So

Alex Ferrari:

we expanded into six different languages. We have four other channels that are different languages. So we have Spanish, German, French and Portuguese, and then Russian and Dutch are separate audio tracks on the main channel. In English, we didn't open up special channels for them. We just gave it as an option on the main channel. So we have six languages. We opened up a clips channel as well, and now we just. Recently launched divine encounters, which is near death experiences and beyond. So they're all mystical kind of experiences, including near death experiences, out of body experiences, spiritual experiences, awakenings and so on. So that's, that's a more cinematic storytelling kind of show. We just launched that bottom less than a month ago, and it already has taken off and doing it's doing very well. People, really, everybody

James Van Praagh:

knows your podcast. Really, I've been in Europe, and people said I saw you on next level. So I'm like, Really, Yes, I heard him. Great. Yes, Alex, wonderful. Yes. I listen to Alex all the time. Yes. So now I'm going to ask you some hard questions. Everyone. Hey, how did you find your guest for the podcast? What was this? How'd you go go through that? Paola

Alex Ferrari:

straight. Paola, sir, I only So, to be honest with you. At the beginning, yeah, no, at the beginning, I leveraged the show that I had before, which had a lot of celebrities and a lot of a lot of established people to show people, Hey, this is a new show, but this is not a new guy. I've been doing this for a long time. I'm now closing in on a decade of podcasting. It's getting cool. Next year will be a 10 year anniversary. Wow. Of me podcasting, it's insane. It's absolutely I thought I was late when I showed up, by the way, I'm like, Ah, well, I'll throw my hat in the ring. Why not? But so I leveraged my past, my past guests, and that kind of opened some doors, and then it just kind of rolled. And I found that, unlike Hollywood and that kind of space, people in spiritual space were very open on going on shows, even if the show is small, you know, to be honest with you, you know this, shows in this, in the spiritual space, most of the times were small. About three years ago, they you didn't, you know, you would have maybe 6000 subscribers, maybe 10,000 if you were a jug or not, you had 100,000 150,000, subscribers, because the awakening of people's interest in this wasn't all the way up there yet. That's right, it really was. So everyone was kind of used to just going on small shows, because that's really there, other than maybe the maybe five really decent sized shows, there really isn't a lot of big shows in the space back No,

James Van Praagh:

you were the original pioneer of this. If I could just give you that. Thank you so much, because you really were, and you are, and Alex is our wonderful it helps me a lot with getting people in the show, and it's just incredible. And I'm gonna ask you that, got the hard questions? Okay, go for it. Well, who's your favorite guest you ever had on the

Alex Ferrari:

show? Well, obviously, James Van Praagh, I mean, hesitates her. Did you see that straight out of my mouth? I

James Van Praagh:

didn't need except me. Like, let's put my favorite subjects you have, or from the guests that you get some death and you've had, you've had top in the world here from

Alex Ferrari:

I appreciate that. I mean,

James Van Praagh:

we're too so I

Alex Ferrari:

do appreciate that. I mean, it's hard to pin down one, I could tell you, shows that moved me. Okay, yes, please. So, um, I had, uh, two recent channels, come on. They were in studio, and one of them channeled Babaji and Yogananda. You could feel the room change. And then another one, Buddha showed up, and and when Buddha showed up, it was the weirdest energy I've ever felt in the room, because it was the most peaceful I've felt in the room, but the most energetic. So it was this crazy, kind of just a position in the room. And I was about almost on a death door, a doorstep on that time I was about to go under in the sick. I was sick. I was coughing up along. I was barely holding on for the interview. So in the interview, you'll see me kind of like, you know, as she's channeling I just asked a question, like, just, please keep talking. I can't. I was like, literally just, and she'd flown in. I'm like, not gonna cancel on her, obviously. So I was just kind of holding and then I went down for a week after that. But the second Buddha showed up, I just went, and you could see me change. My energy ran up, and I started being, it was like, I was a different human being. And the second he left, I was like, oh. And it was just, it was magical. I had one of my favorite conversations as well. And he wasn't. It was a spiritual conversation, but it wasn't one. He's an ex Special Forces Green Beret. His name's two. He, he was a very, you know, he's, he's an ex Green Beret. He's been in the military 20 years. Serious dude. I reached out to him because I wanted, I kind of found him interesting. I was like, you know, he's a modern day samurai. They call him the Ronin. He's got a character in a video game called Call of Duty based on him. I mean, he's a serious he's got a show on a History Channel, you know, serious dude. You. And I was like, I'll throw it out there. And then his wife reached back and said, Yeah, yeah, he'd love to come on. And then as he got closer, I started building up a story. And I don't get nervous. James with guests, I've talked to everybody, so I don't care. I don't get guests. But with him, I got nervous because I'm like, How is this kind of, like, a serious dude, you know, he's seen heavy stuff in the world, and I'm here going, you know, near death experience, you know, like, I, you know, I kind of just built this thing up. I'm like, oh my god, it's his wife who's forcing him to do this. Like, I told this whole story in my head. So he comes on, and the second the video comes up on Zoom, he's, you know, samurai swords in the background and everything. He's, he's all tatted up, and he's, you know, he's a big Jack dude. And first words out of his mouth. He goes, Alex, I've been watching you for about two years now. I can't, I mean, I can't explain to you how important you are. Have been, and I just literally almost fell out of the chair. I mean, literally almost fell out of the chair. And we just had this beautiful raw because he was so comfortable with me. Had this raw conversation about his spirituality, spirituality in people like him in the military, and being vulnerable that way, and that kind of because you don't talk about that stuff in the military, that's right. Don't talk about the afterlife. You don't. You can't work that they do. So it was such a beautiful, beautiful conversation. Those are, those are episodes that, right off the top of my head really, really moved me. What subjects like?

James Van Praagh:

I know you do a lot of native experiences in ancient civilizations. What are the subjects of your favorite to explore with? Guests? Oh,

Alex Ferrari:

gosh. I love anything that, anything that needs to do with I love ancient mysteries. So all ancient mysteries as a general statement, mixing ancient mysteries with lost history and spirituality is is one of my favorite things to to discuss on the show. I love near death experiences. I've done about 120 of them at this point. Wow. And they never cease to amaze me. I love near death and they're

James Van Praagh:

all different, aren't they? I mean, they're all they all have similarity, but they're a little different, but they all

Alex Ferrari:

have their different flavors. So and the stories of people and the energy of people is really nice. I love talking to channels. I love talking to psychic mediums, just because they when, when a psychic medium comes on the show, or channel comes on the show, and I made this very, very consciously, is I treat them, not as a sideshow. I treat them as human beings, which is something that, as you can tell, I'm sure you can attest to it, that I want to know about. If you remember our first conversation, I'm like, what was it like when you came out of this of the psychic closet? How did you deal with it psychologically? Do you think you're going crazy because you're hearing voices when you see someone dead in the room, like, like, these are questions, true questions I would ask somebody going through what you were going through. Same thing with channeling. So I really try to humanize channelers and psychic mediums, because both of those paths are hard as hell, and if you want to scam people, lot easier hustles out there than being a public psychic medium or a public channel. It's not easy. So I really wanted to humanize that that work, and then you grounded

James Van Praagh:

it. You grounded the work. You ground the subject, your and and your passion and your genuine interest comes out as well on your podcast, that's what makes it so fun, because we're all part of your your in your head saying, that's this, that's that. What about that?

Alex Ferrari:

Exactly I ask questions that, you know, look and if you listen to a channel for the first time, the question you're going to ask yourself in your head, did you think you were going crazy? Because this sounds crazy and like when you're psyching me when you saw that person in your room, that sounds nuts. I literally always say that, if you remember, I'm like, This sounds insane. And I want to let everybody know that we are all in on the insanity of what's happening here. But let's ground it in what's going on. And let's talk about it real, in a real space and as like if it was an actual science, which it is in many, many ways. So I just wanted to ground it and kind of really normalize what wasn't considered a sideshow before. And this, you know, disrespected and the

James Van Praagh:

been around a long time, 40 years of doing this, and at the beginning was my first one out there. And really, you had to deal with the skeptics. And I didn't know what cold reading meant I didn't know what your skepticism was, and I got it all thrown at me. And it was like such that that sense of disrespect, including from Oprah, very disrespectful. And it's like I didn't understand why people would be so disrespect. I didn't get that. And as as negative as that, I guess you want negative, skeptical as disrespectful it was, you're the total opposite, and he's really was just a joy to have someone who is respectful of the work of the guests you know, of the topic, and that really so all those, all those negatives, were erased by your positive. I want to tell you that I appreciate that very much, very, very true, Alex. And you know, your heart comes out with your podcast, your. Heart, you genuineness, and you really care, which is another feature for great interviewer, I must say,

Alex Ferrari:

well, and I appreciate that. And you know, I do truly care. And the work that we're doing in on this show, with the work that you're doing on your show, and all the work that you do with everything that you do, it's our job to kind of try to help people along their path. And I have every walk of life on the show, every religion, every every kind of modality, things I haven't even heard of. I'm like, You know what? That's interesting. Let's, let's bring that on. Let's have a conversation about it. And you know what? For the most part, I'm gonna say that maybe two or three guests out of everybody, I had a problem with meaning, like a serious disagreement on, on, what

James Van Praagh:

does that mean? Because I can't imagine disagreeing with someone. Well,

Alex Ferrari:

yeah, so, so specifically, not specifically, but like in general, what it was is that there was, you know, basic understandings of the universe that are held fairly by everybody. That's one thing I've noticed talking to so many different people, is that the truth is The truth is The truth is the truth. Whether you're a psychic medium, a yogi, a rabbi, a lot of the things that we all talk about, it's just different flavors of the same truth, you know? And yeah, there's some, there's some dogma in certain areas and and some programming in other areas. But the general idea is fairly simple. It's very similar. But when someone comes in and starts saying, No, this is this, and this is that, and, and I push back on the show, on the episode, I pushed back because I was like, You know what? I'm not putting this out there. And I've had to, by the way, I've had to scrap episodes like that. I didn't after I interviewed. I'm like, No, it's not going out, not because I disagreed with them, but because they had a serial motive that I didn't see until I start interviewing them. And I was like, this is not this is not good. I don't feel right about this episode, not because I disagreed, because there's a bunch of things that are said on my show that I disagree with a lot of times. Well,

James Van Praagh:

let me ask right left brain people, science people, um,

Alex Ferrari:

oh, no, the science people, the science people that I bring on the show are the, probably some of the most open minded versions of that, of that side. I don't bring on a scientist that's going to be, you know, like, I'm like, if I Neil deGrasse Tyson comes on the show, him and I are probably gonna butt heads. And if he does want to come on the show, I'll be more than happy to, but I'll be very respectful about it and how we talk about things, because I do think a lot of the things that he says are pretty fascinating. And I would probably go more into the universal thing, but I'll start asking him, you know, Einstein said this about, you know, it's probably a god. There's probably something out there that's organizing all of this, so we could go into deep things. But generally speaking, no, it's sometimes more of the spirit, right? No, the spiritual dogma is where I'm I'm a little dog. Yeah, the spiritual dogma gets in. It mixed in a little bit too much and, and a lot of times when, when someone starts going off a little too far on their dogma, that fear based, I will, I will re I will reposition it, and I'll move them back onto the main road. I've been able to do that, you know, as I've been doing,

James Van Praagh:

it's great. Are you kidding? You're a

Alex Ferrari:

so I try to, I try to, you know, move the conversation in a way that I feel that the audience will find benefit out of it. So you get the

James Van Praagh:

fear out of it. You just mentioned, you take the fear out of things. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari:

if someone's proponing A lot of fear on the show, and this is in this is a weird thing, because you know, you and I have been on the show, and we've talked about the future events and that kind of stuff. And that is fearful. There's a lot of scary stuff that has been said publicly, and and psychics are talking about and I throw that stuff out there with a caveat. I'm like, Yeah, but you know, this is what's going to happen, and there's choices to be made, and you know, all this kind of stuff. But that is something that people are super interested in, and it's something that is, I call that the gateway drug, to get them in to the episode, to get them into the episode so they can eat the good stuff. So I have a I always call the broccoli. We're selling broccoli, James, you and I are. Broccoli is a tough sell. It's broccoli, right? It's a, let me ask there's a point with the broccoli, okay? Broccoli is very tough, right? It's tough sell, but I sell chocolate covered broccoli, aha. And the chocolate covered broccoli, I sell the chocolate aspect of the broccoli. So when someone takes a bite, they get a lot of chocolate, but they get a little bit of the broccoli. And that's how I sell. That's how I sell all of my shows. Sometimes there's a little bit more showmanship up front, but that gets you in, because if I don't do that, you'll just run by by it. That's the way I look at

James Van Praagh:

it. Did you always want to be? I mean, you said you wanted in movie businesses over Did you ever think you'd be like an interviewer or before a camera?

Alex Ferrari:

I still don't like being on camera. I had to worry about that.

James Van Praagh:

And the host or the guests, or the hosts, I

Alex Ferrari:

mean, the guests, I don't mind. I could look I talk for a living. I can talk for hours. And being with a guest on the show, I don't bind it. But I if I could do the work I'm doing without showing my face, I would, I would love to not, because of any I just, I just don't feel as comfortable on screen as I do behind the scenes, and that's just programming in my own world as a director. You know, I acted a couple times horribly, and even though I was acting as myself, for God sakes on screen and I was still bad, it's not something I'm very comfortable with. Now, conversations and interviews extremely comfortable with it, and I have no problem with it, but if I had a choice, I would much rather that no one know my name and no one know who I am, and I could do the work, but unfortunately or fortunately, depending how you look at it, this is the choice I've made, and I've decided to put myself out there in this way to do the work that I'm doing, and that's The only way I can do this work. And I'm and I'm, I've agreed to doing that, and I'm and I'm okay with

James Van Praagh:

doing it. I'm changing lives. Alex, the better.

Alex Ferrari:

Yeah, it's

James Van Praagh:

a decision. Just think of that the conversation you have with your guests, that there are many people listening to those conversations, and people that listen to those they like, resonate with what's happening that might force them to open them up to their path, open their mind up to expand and think a little bit differently. And then there's the rippling effect. They talk to someone, to talk to someone, to talk to someone, and you're spreading that word, which is, is just wonderful. So you don't know, we all don't know how the effect we have, oh, power of the words, right? And how it changed. It was live without even knowing it. But it is really important that you, I'm handing you the gold cup here. Whatever

Alex Ferrari:

I appreciate, I appreciate that. It

James Van Praagh:

really, you know, I think that you're like me. You give out, give out, but don't. Isn't easy to receive, but you give and give, give, give, and you're reaching a lot of millions and millions of people, and it's important. I I'm curious, what is, um, what are some subjects? Well, first of all, it's one question I have which is interesting. So you've had the show since 21 right? Since 2021 yes, yeah, right. And since then, till now, have you found that your spirituality has changed? Okay, any strong way, and which way has it changed? Oh,

Alex Ferrari:

I mean, you can't, you can't be unaffected by the conversations you have. Yeah, how then all my life has changed dramatically. I mean, I was already on the spiritual path, probably about two years before I launched the show. I was already meditating. I was already, you know, seeing, possibly visions in my meditations, connecting with source and different ways, opening up things inside of myself, way before the show. But the show is just really kind of fast forwarded everything in a big, big way, because I'm just getting downloads of not only downloads of information every day that I talk to these amazing guests, but also just the energy of being around people like yourself, even through zoom you, the energy changes you you know when you're when you're in interviewing a channel, the energy that comes through a channel is heavy when you're talking to a psychic, the energy Coming through them is heavy, and it's heavy in a reading for 10 or 15 minutes. But sometimes I go in 90 minutes, I feel sometimes tired, exhausted. Sometimes you could even see it in my you know, originally, now I can handle it a lot more. My body's kind of getting used to the the energy shifts. But at the early energy

James Van Praagh:

though, Alex, besides energy shift and it hasn't changed your mindset. I mean, you wake up every different way of looking at things based upon,

Alex Ferrari:

yeah, of course, yeah. My life has changed dramatically. I look at things differently. I I'm a lot more patient than I used to be. I don't sweat the small stuff nearly as much as unless it's with my children. They drive me nuts. But

James Van Praagh:

you can't apply your spirituality.

Alex Ferrari:

No, absolutely not. They are the only ones who understand what buttons to push, when to push them, and they are great at it. They are my great teachers. As I say, they're great, great teachers. But, But all joking aside, yeah, all it's changed me dramatically. It's

James Van Praagh:

enhanced your life. Oh, without

Alex Ferrari:

question. And as I continue to go forward, and now that we have a live studio, which will hopefully have you in there soon, you know, meeting people, interviewing them in person, the energy is so much different. And it's you just feel the difference in the conversation. You feel the difference the interaction with it. But, yeah, my life has changed completely, completely and

James Van Praagh:

curiously enough. What subjects have you not covered yet that you'd wish to have some episodes on? Have you thought about, I'm going to get that one or that subject? You

Alex Ferrari:

know, the thing that's funny is that after doing so many episodes, you go, I've heard it. All I've seen everybody, I've talked to everything, you know, you kind of have that mentality. Sometimes you're like, ah, you know, I've heard that before. I heard that before. But then you start like, you fall into a little crevice, and you're like, this whole world on this subject I never heard about, and who are these guys, I've never heard about, the Gnostics before, who are the Gnostics and who are the Russia Christians? And, you know, oh, the Templars. Let's go deep down that rabbit hole. And I just had a conversation about Rome and Rome spirituality and how Rome and then how the Roman Empire became the Roman Catholic Church, and that whole process. And it's an endless, endless well of stuff I don't know what I don't know until it's presented to me. So there's not something that's inside of me like, Oh, I wish I could talk to somebody about that. Because if it is, I find somebody to talk about that, and I just, I just reach out. And that's the beauty of my job, is when I'm really curious about something, I'll just go find the leading expert in that space.

James Van Praagh:

Was there anything that you're so curious about that you haven't conquered? I'm curious.

Alex Ferrari:

I'm curious about 1000 things. I mean, off the top, God, we got, I got somebody. I have the knights, Templar, Grand Master coming on the show soon. So we're gonna talk. That's gonna be fun. I just had Rome. I had the Roman expert. Come on. I've, Oh, gosh. I mean, I've talked. I mean, so many things, just but there isn't anything that I can think of off the top of my head that I want to go do, because once I see that, I really don't know until I see somebody, something gets sent to me, or I run across it somewhere in my in my travels. I'm like, Oh, who's that? What? What are they talking about? I'm like, I had a tarot card expert. Come on. I never know anything about tarot cards. Now I know the entire history of tarot cards, how they came, what they do, how they're gonna, like, when did they start? Who started them? How do they start that whole world? I had an astrology expert, come on, I didn't know anything about astrology. And had somebody who really understood astrology at a deep, you know, intellectual and spiritual level, and I learned about that. So I'm always touching on all sorts of little things. And now we're getting into, like, you know, sub sub niches, of sub niches, of sub niches to talk about with people. So I'm always learning, and you find that people

James Van Praagh:

are like, what how many episodes have you done so far? Do you know we're at,

Alex Ferrari:

like, we're closing in on 500 right now? We're closing, we're closing in on 500 at this point.

James Van Praagh:

There's not one or two that stand out.

Alex Ferrari:

Oh, I told you. I mean those, those handful, stand out. But yeah. I mean they all have them. Yeah. I mean, I have, when Paul say, like, was the Paul sale the channel,

James Van Praagh:

I'll sell it very well before he was a channel,

Alex Ferrari:

Paul was, Paul was a reluctant he's the reluctant channel. I love him. He's, he was a musical. I

James Van Praagh:

wrote a music. He wrote my musical. I had, I written, I wrote an idea for music, and was an Edgar on CO and he actually, I hired him to write the play. Well,

Alex Ferrari:

Paul is, is a lovable curmudgeon, and is He? Is he not? Is he not? He's a lovable curmudgeon. And, and I just had Paul at the studio the other day, and I told Paul, I go, Paul. I don't know if you remember or not, but in our first episode, at the end of the episode, I go, Hey, do the guides have any thing to say to the audience? And the guides were the first ones that said publicly to me in an interview that said the young man would like to answer, have an a question answered. I didn't ask the question. I guess it was something in the back of my head, right? And he go, the guy. So the young man like this, answered, and he will shine the light, if I remember, he will shine the light for millions, because he has this, he has agreed to be, to be seen. And I was like, what? And I was still very that was episode, like, 16, so it was really early on, and I that's that that was early in that I'm still scared scenario. That's one episode that, like, really, I remember because the channel, because the guides just said that, and I didn't ask a question. So that was a really interesting, interesting, interesting conversation.

James Van Praagh:

Wow, wow. And where do you go from here?

Alex Ferrari:

The future of what

James Van Praagh:

you want to do with this, or bring it into a television reality series or

Alex Ferrari:

so a lot of people ask me, because I have, because I have a film background, you know, are you going to make a movie, make TV show? Yes and yes. But right now, we're going to have an event coming up next year.

James Van Praagh:

I was invited to that, yes, if you're interested, and I said I would do it, yes, of

Alex Ferrari:

course. With that, yeah, absolutely. So we're going to have one next year in March, end of March, we're going to be doing an event that's going to be our first event. I

James Van Praagh:

have some that will help. We're really good for that, so I appreciate about that. Yes,

Alex Ferrari:

so having so having that event is going to be good. We're going to be we have our streaming service now, and we're going. Be starting to create original content for that streaming service. So we're starting to venture out into building out library of content and educational materials and things like that. So we're going to be expanding in that way. We have our our merchandise store that, you know, people are buying. I just

James Van Praagh:

saw that earlier today. I didn't know you had shirts and yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alex Ferrari:

People, people, people want the hat. People want the hat. That's where it started. So people started wanting and I'm like, All right, I'll put them together for you. And it's doing very well. And, and we're growing that way, and we're hopefully going to be doing a tour eventually, and we want to do a bigger Convention of, you know, three to 5000 people and and create spaces for people to kind of come and gather and grow together and so on. So there's a lot of things we want to do, TV shows, obviously, eventually, something on a Netflix or a large streamer, anything that could help grow the mission. But I am not thirsty for that,

James Van Praagh:

right? Because I'll happen the way it's it's

Alex Ferrari:

it's gonna happen in charge, right? It's gonna happen the way it needs to happen. And I'm not hungry for it, nor do I am searching for it, because I'm fine. If no one ever calls, I'm good, you know? Because I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. Yeah, and we'll see where it goes. But I have a feeling that old media is gonna start knocking on the door.

James Van Praagh:

I predict the show. I predicted, if, if that we call it these days television.

Alex Ferrari:

I had a streaming show, I guess a streamer, a streaming show, you'll

James Van Praagh:

do well at you know why? Because, I mean, you give out so much, you're so passionate, you're so dedicated, and that the, you know, the spiritual world is helping you so, so much to get the word out. And, you know what you can actually get back, and you're just there to help. You're here to serve. And that's the best, I think the best thing we can do is serve humans, you know,

Alex Ferrari:

yeah, and that's the point of why I do what I do. I really want to help people and and we are, you know, from the messages and the comments that we get, it's that we're changing people's lives, from what I hear, and I don't say that in a grandiose, egotistical way, more so that, like, these are messages that we get. And like, I can't believe the show you changed my life. And I've met people, I've spoken to people in person, who go, you have no understanding what you've done. You've answered a lot of questions. If I, if I have time to tell you one story, my mother is, as you can imagine, one of my biggest fans, and she tells it, tells everybody about what I do, you betcha, everybody and her downstairs neighbor started watching the show, And he had been diagnosed with late stage cancer and and he didn't know how much time he had, and his wife didn't want to really tell him, they just want to enjoy the time he had left. And he was really terrified of dying, I mean, scared of dying. And he started watching the show, and he told my mom, after a few weeks of watching the show, he said, I'm not scared of dying anymore, right? And and I said, Do you Do you want me to talk to him? He goes, Oh my god, he would be so excited if he'd talk to him. So I got on a FaceTime with him, and if you saw his face light up. And he was so happy, and he started asking me questions and thanking me, and it just changed the way he looked. It was. It was so amazing to see that interaction. And I spoke to him for about a half an hour, and then I hung up, and then a couple days later, my mom calls and goes, you have no idea his wife said that he is on cloud nine, and he is so happy that he spoke to you, and he's telling everybody that he spoke to you, and he's so like prepared to make the transition. And a few weeks later, he passed, but to be able to give that gift to somebody by having conversation and asking questions. It's really why I do this. It truly, it truly is. It's a lot of work, you know, this, James, it's a lot of work, especially the way I do

James Van Praagh:

it, you're fully in,

Alex Ferrari:

I'm fully in. It's a lot of work, but I love doing it. And you know, it really is helping people

James Van Praagh:

and they're changing the world. Is that it's fine, you're changing the world? Yes, sir. So next level souls on all platforms, people, Next Level

Alex Ferrari:

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James Van Praagh:

congratulations, Alex, stay on, Brad. We get off. You stay on. Absolutely. Thanks everybody. And Alex, thank you very much. Thank you for having me, my friend. Yes. And thanks everyone. We'll see you next time.

Alex Ferrari:

See you guys. You