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NASA Scientist Exposes Truth on Aliens, UFOs, and Multi-dimensions

• James Van Praagh • Season 1 • Episode 11

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Are we alone in the universe? Hear the truth from this NASA scientist breaking silence on aliens, UAP/UFOs, and other civilizations.
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What is space? Are we alone in this universe? What do scientists have to say about aliens and UFOs? Join us as we sit down with NASA rocket scientist, Shehnaz Soni, as she tells all about aliens, star being encounters, UFO & UAPs, Project Artemis, space travel and how it all impacts our spiritual awakening!

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James Van Praagh is hailed worldwide as a pioneer of the mediumship movement and is considered one of the most widely recognized and accurate spiritual mediums working today.

A “survival evidence medium,” he provides evidential proof of life after death through highly detailed messages from the spiritual realm. He is recognized annually on Watkins List of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People – a prestigious list of spiritual teachers, activists, authors, and thinkers.

For over three decades, Van Praagh’s messages have brought comfort and peace to millions. He has worked with international heads of state, religious world leaders, and celebrities including Cher, Goldie Hawn, Shirley Maclaine, Ellen DeGeneres, Joan Rivers, Katie Couric, Loretta Lynn, Chelsea Handler, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Wesley Snipes, and so many more. 

The #1 New York Times best-selling author of over a dozen international best-sellers, including his debut, Talking to Heaven, Van Praagh’s book titles include: Talking To Heaven, Reaching to Heaven, Healing Grief, Heaven and Earth, Looking Beyond, Meditations, Ghosts Among Us, Unfinished Business, Growing Up In Heaven, Adventures of the Soul, How to Heal a Grieving Heart, and The Power of Love.

Throughout his career, James Van Praagh has appeared on countless national radio and television shows including The Oprah Winfrey Show, Larry King Live, Dr. Phil, 48 Hours, The View, The Joy Behar Show, Chelsea Lately, Coast to Coast AM, and many more. 
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Kellee White is a Spiritual Medium and a licensed Psychotherapist practicing with celebrities, corporate executives, entrepreneurs, politicians as well as individuals, couples and families. Her specialties involve her work with trauma, loss, grief counseling, changes, transitions, fear of death and life purpose. A major goal of Kellee’s work is to heal the soul, which often includes messages from loved ones who have passed on to the other side. Kellee uses many lenses in her sessions for viewing the soul that include astrology, numerology and psychic ability. A session with Kellee might well be the most exciting, informative, healing hour of your life!

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Shehnaz Soni:

Music.

James Van Praagh:

Hi everybody, Hello. I'm James and Prague, and welcome to Life and after death and beyond, where we explore all different types of topics in this world and beyond worlds. And my partner in crime here is Kelly White is not here tonight because she's dealing with a hurricane right now in the middle of Wisconsin. So she tried, but she said, I have to go down to the basement because it's blowing 90 miles per hour. So we send Kelly a lot of our love. And I said to her, hold on, hold on, you'll make it, but hold on, kind of crazy. And this is conjunction we have is really, really rough. So there we go. But tonight, we have an incredible guest with us, and someone that I've wanted to interview for a while now, and I was starting to read her book, the quanta beam. And her name is Naz Soni, and shenaz was born and raised in a culture in Karachi, Pakistan where women were groomed and expect to be wives and homemakers and not even encouraged to go to school. And they're still like that in many parts of Pakistan, some friends of mine, moms are getting girlfriends. Uh, she drove through many barriers. Became what do you this one? A rocket scientist, quantum coach, spiritual Alchemist and quantum being author. So the book is a quantum being, and she is the author and way to hear about this book. And she's currently working with NASA as a senior systems engineer for Artemis program, which is going to tell us all about and shanaz is also the author. Like I said, the quantum being a self sustaining and magnificent human craft. It's called the quantum being, a self sustaining and magnificent human craft. Can't wait to hear about that, and it seamlessly weaves together science, spirituality, yay, and ancient wisdom. And she begins by introducing the mind bending concepts of quantum mechanics, where atoms dance and particles defy conventional rules, OMG. So please help me in welcoming Shahnaz. Shami, hi, shanaz, welcome, sweetheart.

Shehnaz Soni:

Thank you so much for this gathering. I'm so excited to see what we unfold,

James Van Praagh:

what we unfold. And I'm just so excited to have you because for us who we know about quantum physics as late, people like myself. But can you share, first of all, what is quantum physics in your mind?

Shehnaz Soni:

So basically, quantum physics, as was discovered more than 100 years ago, and if you look at the double slit experiment, it explains that what happens when you are observing the electron, whether you observe the electron or whether you observe the photon, the effects are that it acts differently when you observe it. So when you observe it, it acts like a particle, and when you don't, it acts like a wave. So the very the observation affects the momentum is pretty much Wow, what quantum physics is. And when you really understand that one sentence and extrapolate to all aspect of her life, you realize that helicopter mom does not work.

James Van Praagh:

And why is that? It's

Shehnaz Soni:

partly because you are because you know there is no such thing as recon. You know when you're looking at something or when you're living through something, you're affecting it. So when you are living through your children happiness, then at the same time, even though you want them to be happy, but by observing them, you're affecting their happiness. That's right. So

James Van Praagh:

can you also say that if you're sitting there and you're sending prayer, you're sending waves of love, in some ways, that would be better to do that, keep on sending positive thoughts of love. Yeah,

Shehnaz Soni:

you're affecting it, but at least your intention and you're sending positive so it's a positive effect, because you're intending to be positive, right? So that is the thing, that whenever we think of another person, we are affecting them in the quantum field

James Van Praagh:

and and the quantum field is surrounding the human shell, the orc field, or is it intermingling, or

Shehnaz Soni:

it's interacting with every single thing that exists. So you know existence, of course, you know we we define existence in the physical dimension, but there is existence doesn't just stay in the physical, right? We know that it stays in multiple dimensions, right? So if you want to take it for simple. You know, you have physical, you have emotional, you have mental, you have spiritual. Let's just take those four for basic, right? Because we don't want to go into seven planes when you get Yeah, because those everybody can relate to it, because everybody can say that right now, James and shanaz are physically communicating with each other, but we also have our emotion that only we know what they are saying to us, right? You only know what you think, what you feel, and same goes with me. And then mental is your thinking. You're the only one who knows what you're thinking, no matter no matter what I can't tell what you're thinking, because you can even say one thing and think and. That,

James Van Praagh:

right? That's right, right? That's right. So right, there

Shehnaz Soni:

is the mental plane, and then the spiritual plane is where you look at all of your self. It's almost like you're looking the forest versus the trees.

James Van Praagh:

Wow. And when you physical, when your soul exits the physical, what happens? Do you think, and where you go.

Shehnaz Soni:

You mean, like when we leave it, luckily, yeah, physical,

James Van Praagh:

three dimensional world. Where do you think the soul goes to?

Shehnaz Soni:

So I believe that it's kind of like a seat of consciousness, yeah, gets repositioned, right? So it's almost like, you know, when people talk about out of body experience, right, while they're still in this physical body, the reason out of body. To me, it's kind of like repositioning your seat of consciousness so you're having a different vantage point.

James Van Praagh:

Great explanation. People go, wow, yeah, it's true. Yeah, a different perspective,

Shehnaz Soni:

exactly. It's a different perspective. And to me, like we never truly die because our vantage point changes. And and it's funny, because, you know, I have, I have people, you know, like, there are two schools of thoughts in engineer world, okay, one believes that it's one life to live, and when you're dead, you no longer exist, right? Because I had a ex husband who completely still believe, I mean, he still believes in that, right? Wow. And so that, to me, is a one school of thought, and then the other one is like, you know, where everybody has their own, you know, like, based on the religion or based on their spiritual belief, right? They believe that you do exist, but everybody has their own version of what it looks like. What I say is that for people who are in the first one, the school of thought where you no longer exist, like, I personally think that if you no longer exist, then you truly have nothing to worry because technically, if you truly don't exist, cancels each other out. So you don't have to worry about, we're done. Let's just, let's not even, let's not even talk about it, right? Exactly.

James Van Praagh:

That's so funny. Yeah, true. It's really not true. And what would you, how would you describe energy? What is energy? So

Shehnaz Soni:

energy, to me, is everything. Energy actually the one word that describes every single thing that exists, whether it exists in the material form or not. It's an energy,

James Van Praagh:

okay, okay. And before we get too far, I want to go back to your background, because when you were raised in Pakistan, and were you in a marriage, or mother was going to make a marriage partner for you. Was that the culture and we prepared for that? Yeah, we

Shehnaz Soni:

were definitely groomed for that, like all our lives. You know, we see everybody gets married based on arranged marriage. It's all about the proposal comes and then so basically, whatever proposal comes to the house, then the elders decide whether they're worth considering, and when they agree, then you get to talk to the person for one hour. Okay, so that is just the process. So I was very much aware that that's the way it's going to be, and I'm going to be decided whom I need to marry. So when I started going to the university and when the guys would send me, give me letters, you know, of love. I knew that I'm not going for this because, because the end for people who fall in love was so bad, and I was like, I didn't want to die in the process. So I said, No, I'm not going for that.

James Van Praagh:

What did your family think? I

Shehnaz Soni:

mean, yeah, my family was very high happy that I was so obedient, right? Because I married, I had an arranged marriage. I did everything. Oh, you did, okay, yeah, I did. I did. I stayed in America for 10 years, so I basically follow the entire script that was written for me until I turned 29 years old, and then I started questioning it in your Saturn Return,

James Van Praagh:

yeah. So tell us about that. So Wow. And as a little girl, did you have thoughts about science, about the stars, about the heavens, or what did you think of when you were a little girl, about the vastness of space and so forth? Oh,

Shehnaz Soni:

I had, like, a huge curiosity, because that was one of my escape, because I knew that, you know, I'm living in an apartment, three bedroom apartment with my family. My entire script is written out that I'm going to have, you know, whatever decide pretty much it's going to be my fate. And then the only place where I felt like I could just be me as a as a spirit, more like looking at it from a higher perspective, was on a swing. So we had a balcony, and there was a swing, and I would swing, and I would sing my songs and my languages, and I would basically talk to the sky and the stars, and I would say that like that was my free place. That was the place where I felt very liberated. And when I would be swinging, I would feel like I'm flying in the sky, right? And I actually felt that I can be anything I want to be, at least for that particular moment. And maybe because I gave myself that preview, it kind of kept me going, because, you know, I had already an imagination on, on where I want to be, even though I wasn't, and I didn't even think that I may ever be there, because it was impossible from where I was at the point, right? But I think that there was something in me that probably knew that it was possible, even though my conscious mind did not.

James Van Praagh:

And when you were. Little girl, was there any thought about, what do you want to do

Shehnaz Soni:

when you grow up? Yeah, my my only goal in life was because I saw so much, so much frustration, so much mess in Pakistan. Like, I mean, things were just really, there was so much going on. Like, you know, we even had a fire on our, on our, in our, in the building, because somebody, you know, I mean, it was a mistake. But so I just seen a lot of challenges growing up and, you know, bus burning with people. So my whole thing was that's, how can I help? Like, how can I do something that can help everybody so that they can feel good? Because to me, I felt like people were very sad around me.

James Van Praagh:

Interesting, Wow, interesting perspective. And then when you say, and you just wanted to do good to the world, but you didn't really know specifically what it was, right and you wanted to finish school. Did you have a desire that I got to go to university? Or Yeah, I

Shehnaz Soni:

actually, when I actually got to the point where I could decide what I want to become. I wanted to become a doctor, and I was very adamant, because I was a valedictorian, so I was able to select what I wanted to do, except that my dad was not in agreement with me becoming a doctor, because, because where I had to go to the school, it was like we had to require to change two busses and and then when you become a doctor, you have to do some night duties. So my dad said, I don't want you to have to take two busses at night. The chances of you getting kidnapped or raped is very high, and I'm not going to let you become a doctor. So that was not even like. It was not something that I could even consider. Wow,

James Van Praagh:

were you crushed? Were you just heartbroken, or were you just, I bet your mind was thinking something else then.

Shehnaz Soni:

I mean, my dad always dictated my life. So it wasn't like, like, it wasn't like anything new. The only thing was that I knew that if I can't become a doctor, because there are only three professions that are kind of considered over there, like doctor, engineer and lawyer, right? And just like everywhere else, lawyer is considered liars. So for me, the options were only two, basically. So I said, Okay, now I just have to become an engineer. And then, as you know, with engineering, there was all these different fields, like electrical, civil, a computer, and the one that was the hardest one that everybody said was electrical. And since I like challenges, I said, Okay, let's just do that. You're

James Van Praagh:

incredible. You are incredible. You're incredible. Just something going back because I'm loving, I'm loving your story when you were dealing with your dad, and you're thinking about your career, and you couldn't be a doctor inside yourself, did you know inside you know what? He doesn't quite get me, I'm going to do something, but you'll see one day. Did you have that feeling, or did you just thought, I'll just try my best?

Shehnaz Soni:

I think that it was more like that. In my mind. I wanted to help people, and I thought being a doctor is the best way I can help. When he said no, and the fact is, what he said no for I actually agreed with him, because people were getting raped and people were getting kidnapped, and part of me didn't want to have to go through that either. So in a way, it wasn't like that I was in complete disagreement with him. It was just kind of like part of me was hoping that I should be somewhere where I can safely do whatever I want, but because that didn't happen, and then I end up going to engineering school, and I kind of realized that electrical engineering is very similar to becoming a doctor.

James Van Praagh:

And how many years study is that, like 14 or 10 or electro engineering? How long is going to school for that? Eight years, four years, four years. And what did you in Pakistan? Went to

Shehnaz Soni:

school? Electrical, electrical, no. So it just so happens that I'm actually in engineering, and I was, it's one of the best university in Pakistan, which is called Ned. It stands for Ned, and that's where I went. And I was in my first year when I got proposed, and because I got proposed, I wasn't even able to finish my first year, and I ended up getting married and came to America. So one of the things that happened was, so basically, yeah, but in that one hour interview, when he asked me all sorts of questions, I asked him very important question. I said, Can I continue my studies? Because that was my that was the most important thing for me, because I knew that once I get married, he's going to decide my fate, because, you know, it's either your father, either your brother, either your husband, it's always men deciding the fate for women. Right, right? So he actually said, Yes, I want you to finish your education. So that was one of the biggest deals for me. So when I came to America, then it took me a lot of effort to get an admission, because of my background and because of some other challenges that I explained in my book, it was pretty challenging to get an admission, and I had to actually convince them even to get me an admission. Wow, it was, it was like, yeah, it was quite an ordeal for me. And if I wouldn't have done that, I would have never become an engineer.

James Van Praagh:

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, really, those challenges make you stronger, for sure. And you, I mean, knowing you very shortly have, you're, you're very strong, you'll, you'll go through it. That air is rising. And, yeah, that Taurus, I mean, you'll get you'll do it. You'll do it. So, so what does engineering school, then after that, what did you do? Go for a job, or what happened after that? And I. Tell us more about when you got to NASA. How did that all work out?

Shehnaz Soni:

So it was kind of a process, right? So first I had to fight to get an admission, because that was a huge challenge by itself. Yeah? Once, yeah? Because, because of the fact that I had a fail in my mark sheet, which was nothing to do with my performance, it had everything to do with riots going on on the day when I wanted to take a test, so it had a whole story attached to it. So I went, because out of the three schools that I applied, I wanted to go for ucrwine, so I went and met the chancellor. I made an appointment to meet her, to tell her why I need to get admission. And then when I told her, in my broken English, the entire story of how this fail has nothing to do with my performance, everything to do with the culture. She was completely blown away. And she basically gave me a admission on contingency, and she said, you have to maintain your grade like, you know, above 3.0 and so I am learning English at the same time I'm learning engineering. And the professor were teaching engineering, they were Chinese, so they were not necessarily good. I was having so many variables. And then I married to a man who has his own demands and all that. So I was doing all of that as a multi dimensional species. Yeah, yeah, you signed up for a lot.

James Van Praagh:

Okay? And then, so now we're in Irvine, right? And you're mad.

Shehnaz Soni:

And then, and then, when I graduated, my entire goal was because I did graduate with magna cum laude, and I had, you know, and so now I was able to, so I was applying for jobs. And the very interesting thing about my job was that because of my name, a lot of people were assuming that I'm a man because, you know, I'm an electrical engineer, plus my name. So they were always assuming, always assuming I'm a man. And then it was very hard to get an interview, because I learned that my name is very and my last name at the time was different than what I have. This one is much easier. That one was like, I can't I mean, if I tell you it's, it was bandukwala, which is so hard for people to pronounce, so they were struggling with my name. So I wasn't even getting a lot of opportunity for interviews and but when I would get an interview, I would always get a job. So that was the pattern that I saw. But then I didn't want any job, so I would give my jobs to my colleagues who were desperately looking for jobs. Yeah, because I wanted a job. I wanted to work on a state of the art program. So when I got a job working on a satellite phone, because at the time, you know, that was one of the biggest deal of making a satellite phone, and they were using Inmarsat satellite, and they were working with Martin mariata in London, that kind of appealed me. So I accepted my job. My first job was with Hughes al segando Hughes satellite, satellitecom, and that's how I started my career, working on something that was state of the art. Wow,

James Van Praagh:

wow, wow, wow, wow. So satellite's really kind of the beginning. Kind of satellite world

Shehnaz Soni:

was the beginning. And my first role was software engineering, and even though I was an electrical engineer, but they basically taught me all the different languages so I can code in different languages, because, you know, once you become an engineer and you learn how to learn, you can pretty much learn anything.

James Van Praagh:

Wow, you're a master. Wow, you are a master, I swear. Wow. And then how long would you stay at use for?

Shehnaz Soni:

I stayed at Hughes for actually three years. It was I learned the entire lifecycle of the software engineering. And the interesting thing was that while I was working there, actually nobody's asked me this question, and you're bringing me some memories which I should share. I don't even share this particular story in my book. I'm going to go ahead and share it because it basically shows that how I started growing balls, because this is a very good example. So, so basically, I'm working there, and I have a boss who was, you know, Asian, and a woman and and what happened was that I was basically married and I also had a, you know, baby while I started working, right? Because I always had many things going on, not only

Unknown:

that, civil life, let's be really so basically, I'm

Shehnaz Soni:

married and I have a small newborn baby while I'm doing this new software life cycle, and I'm presenting, I actually presented my first presentation ever as an engineer while I was like, seven months pregnant, in front of hundreds of people talking about very conceptual thing about how we're going to see the beam to make sure that the message goes over, You know, right? And, and while I'm doing all that, and I was very hardworking, I'm doing all of that, but what happened was I started confining in my female boss. She was female, and I thought that she's a woman, so she'll understand. Because not only that, I had a small child. He was diagnosed with this because he was born with a stroke in the brain, so he had a disability. So I'm dealing with all of that, and I'm basically confiding in her. So what happens is that the project doesn't do as well as she had planned she was leading the project. So what she does is that she completely makes me, puts the blame on me. Yeah, that's the first time I even learn about the word scapegoat in English. Because, you know, I started, I'm like. How can someone like me? Because I'm just an entry level engineer, I'm pretty much doing everything she tells me. So no matter what, I don't have the power to mess with the entire project, right? I mean, that just made no sense. So, so basically, what they did was they wrote a performance where they gave me a very, very bad performance. And you know, the interesting thing was that right around the same time when they gave me the bad performance. I already had an offer working on a space station from Boeing that I had declined, because I am very I'm all about loyalty, because when I come from a culture, you know, when you come from places like Pakistan, you're all about integrity, loyalty, honesty. And I wanted to support her because I thought she was my mentor, yeah. And when I saw the performance, where it was completely used me as a scapegoat. I was like, I could not even believe that she would do that. So then I told her that I'm not going to sign this. And she said, How dare you? And I said, I said that when I don't agree with something, I don't sign that. And then I said that I already have a job. I just have to call them back and say I accept.

James Van Praagh:

And I left. Wow, wow, amazing, amazing, amazing. And wow. I mean, wow. I think of questions that pop in my head and go out. I'm just so amazed at everything you say. I what I wanted to say to you was and I don't know your background and your child and so forth. Have you found your life? And the reason, I think maybe that happened other situations. I think, energetically you intimidate them. Other women, you might intimidate them. And like I came back to this life in a short stature, and a healer once said to me, you came back short, because if you were tall, no one would listen to your words. And I think because I'd intimidate them energetically, not that we mean to but I think, and that was, have you ever thought about that, that maybe energetically, you intimidated her or some people? Yeah, you're very humble, sweetheart. You're very humble too, by the way, yeah,

Shehnaz Soni:

and I don't think that I ever thought that way, because partly the fact that I was so exploited by people, I thought that if I'm intimidating them, then why are they exploiting me? Right? Because it makes no sense. Yeah, but I think that you're right, because it's almost like that, because people operate off of either fear or love, right? That's right, there is, there's only two. It's binary, right? So I think that I just didn't realize at the time. And for me, the good thing about me is that I definitely let people exploit me, but once I know about it, they can no longer exploit

James Van Praagh:

okay, but in the boundaries, sorry, you don't get into this. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Because

Shehnaz Soni:

we all have to go through that, right? Like sometime you you have to have a blindfold on. But the good thing is that I don't let it go too far, because I'm very, you know, because, I mean, who else is going to protect you?

James Van Praagh:

You're right, and you're quick, you're you're quick, you're very bright, you're bright, you know, people, you What do you call it? Psychic intuition. Knowing this, you sense people right away, right away, when they walk into a room. You know, so and how much of it work do you find was intuitive, inspirational, that you're open to whatever,

Shehnaz Soni:

I think all of it actually. The funny thing is that I have always been a people person, so at my work, the reason I was able to get things done is, of course, I had the the right skill set and the background and the motivation, but at the same time, I was very aware, like I was very in tune with people. So one of my roles, and I have to tell you this, it was a very fun role for me. So on an international space station, my role, I became a build software build integrator. What it means is that you have to take the entire load of the software and run it, all the source codes to see if it goes through without any, you know, without any error. Yeah, yeah. And then, of course, you run into lots of error. But then when you run into error, then you have to understand where the error coming from, what's not working. So what happens is that you understand the entire so, like, so I became like a mother of all the codes that resided in 14 computers in space station that basically would communicate right the command and control for the entire international space station. Was very fun for me. But the thing is, you become so you understand all of this idiosyncrasies and all the things. So you become really good at it. But the thing is that because we get good at it, you also understand when people are not doing something right in their code. So I became like a police so what happens is that when you know that something is broken, you're supposed to go and inform this coder that you know what, there's a challenge in your code. So because my role was build integrator, as soon as I would enter into office, they knew that if I'm entering means something's wrong with them. So now they're all about defend. You know, you become defensive, of course, and hello. And most of these men they don't like, like a small, petite woman like me is going to tell them that they are wrong, right? I mean, so a lot of time, you know, it was, like, very hard for me to interact with, because I already knew that this is not a happy end. You know, it's almost like a ticket to give you a ticket, right? You're not going to be happy about it. So it was very hard for me to interact with them. But there was, there were a couple of people that was that would, like, say really nasty things to you. Unprofessional. Were you like someone? I mean, it was hard for me not to

James Van Praagh:

even ego. That's why they were. Ego was hurt, that's all, yeah, but it so basically.

Shehnaz Soni:

It made like it that Job was a hard job for me, but it taught me a lot about like, how people are only coming to you because, because, because they're trying to protect themselves at any cost, and they're willing to put you down just so that they can still look good. Sure.

James Van Praagh:

Judgment. That's what judgment is. They put someone else down and feel empowered in control. Yeah, right. So I think you're a healer from way back, from way back ancient times and including and you're obviously a star being. But I think that energy of yours, a healing energy, the intellect, the creativity, all into one. I think people on some level proper, intimidated, and you just you to get your healing work. You know your imprint, and you want to, you know, by you opening certain spaces, things move, things changed.

Shehnaz Soni:

Yeah, that is true. You know, I actually feel that I have always felt that I have been a pattern buster. And when I even come right and when I come in people's life, the thing is, some people don't like it when they are in that Groundhog Day, living life, and then someone like me comes and shows them the mirror of something they've never seen before. So, so if they, if you know, I mean, depends, right? Sometimes you can say, Thank you my for showing me something I have never seen. But sometime you're like, How dare you?

James Van Praagh:

Yeah, I do it like a kid glove. I do, I do it like I'm feeding babies. I mean, I spoon feed, as you do when your book is like you do sleuthing, but to people, just you don't speak above them or below them. Speak to them. And I think you do a great job with that. And I think that you come across as an intelligent, creative healer as well. And you know what you're doing. You're highly intuitive. What, what? So when you got into that means something, anything spiritual happen with you? Any spiritual encounters or anything when you were sleeping, or did you see spirits, or just strong psychic work when we draw the spiritual aspects and the personal transformation aspects of your work?

Shehnaz Soni:

So, yeah, so it's interesting, right? Because, okay, so I'll tell you,

James Van Praagh:

but I gotta get these points. No, no, this

Shehnaz Soni:

is a and wisdom, yeah, my evolution spiritually. Because, first of all, okay, so everything, like, from the childhood, I actually used to get nightmare. Okay, I have to say that that is, you know how, like, you always get some sort of download from your parents. Like, my dad was someone who always had nightmares to the point where he would scream and then, like, for whatever reason, I picked that up from him, right? So, and my challenge was sleeping at night was not a fun thing for me, because I was so aware of the darkness in the spirit and and I've always liked because my sister and I would always sleep together, but there were times she would sleep, she would go to visit some other people, and now I have to sleep alone in the bed, begging my mom all day long, saying, Could you please sleep with me? Because I don't want to sleep alone, right? Because it's too scared. So that was one of my like, I was very aware that there's something in the darkness that's there, and then, because my dreams were very like they were to me, they were very real and and they were not very happy dreams. So I was struggling with that growing up. So darkness became my concern. But one of the interesting thing I noticed is that there were many times in my life when I was completely alone, especially when I moved into California, and then I started living a life, you know, which was very hard to learn, and I got lost in places, you know, there was no cell phone, there was no no map, and then I don't even speak English, and then I'm getting lost in places where I'm two hours away from home. So I had experiences where I felt very helpless, like, I like, how am I going to get out of this mess, right? And then, of course, you know, you're in a car, you don't know what to do. And then, I mean, I truly have no problem crying, by the way, when I get really sad, I just cry because I'm like, I don't know what to do, right? So I'm crying. I'm asking for help. Of course, I'm talking to the invisible guides, and then always I would get some idea, right? And I've had that happen many times, even in Paris, like I was lost in a blizzard and was winter, and then nobody, you know, I don't speak French, I have no phone, nothing. And so there, there has been point in my time when I am just feeling like I don't know what to do, right? So I'm feeling very sad. I truly don't know what to do, but I actually kind of like take a pause, I even cry if I have to, or I even talk to God and say, How dare you put me in this bad situation, like I do all of it. And then what happens is that the exit plan comes in the form of people in the form of ideas, in the form of something. So I almost learned that, that there's you are, like, being taken care of. It's almost like, and I'm going to give this example, James, and I know everybody will laugh, who's listening to me. It's like, you know, when you watch a movie like hunger game, and you know, like, how when you reach the threshold, when you're about to hit that and then they send you, like, a can of milk or something to help you feel better. Yes, like that, right? I mean, of course it's, you know. So I think that there is, there has been that, but I did have near death experience myself.

James Van Praagh:

I mean, yeah, you'd have to with your insights, tell us about that. So my near

Shehnaz Soni:

death experience was when I was actually, and I think I was, like, under maybe 10 or 11 years. Sold. I was in the beach, Hawk Bay Beach, which is in Karachi, and we would go there on a regular basis. But see, so the thing is that, just, you know, as a woman, growing up, you don't learn anything that can like, you don't learn how to swim, but you go to the beach and you always stay on the shore. And I was a very, you know, petite girl, and very, very underweight, too. I ended up, you know, the wave came and picked me up and took me on a deeper part of the wave. So I pretty much had the Near Death Experience sinking. And I saw, like, I saw the entire like, it was very beautiful. It was interesting, because, you know, you go through a little struggle while you want to not die, but then, you know, you are in this place where you're no longer struggling, and you start seeing your entire life, like somebody's playing a movie in front of you, wow, wow. It's like, you know, and it was like a it's like a video, it's a video, recording of me and how, like, my evolution happened up to that point. But it was going in the backward direction. And it was so interesting, because I'm looking at this movie, and it went all the way for me to go to the womb of my mom's, right? So it just the whole thing was like, and I'm basically experiencing all that. And I think that, like, you know, my dad was a great swimmer, so he actually saved me, and then he had to give me some PR and all that. So I truly didn't remember all that happened, because my memories only that I saw the movie, and then I remember that everybody's around me and worried about me, right? And of course, you know, I survived that, but it did create a little bit of a fear with the water for me,

James Van Praagh:

yeah? And it would, and it would, wow. And when did you start working with Well, let me ask you quite another question. What are UFOs, and do they exist? I'm just asking

Shehnaz Soni:

the name. I actually question the name, by the way, because you know, first of all, anything that you're talking about is no longer unidentified, right? I mean, so the whole unidentified flying object, to me, is kind of like, you know, you're just trying to make it as

James Van Praagh:

an IFO exactly, because it has been

Shehnaz Soni:

already identified, because you're talking about it. But the whole flying object thing is another thing, right? Because the whole The interesting thing about right,

James Van Praagh:

because it doesn't always fly, it manifests. It bends currents, yeah, yeah.

Shehnaz Soni:

And I mean, like, the thing is that now that gets into the entire way, the how we perceive information, how we perceive light, right? Because if you really, if you really think about it, we have this perception, right, that we're all on Earth, and then there's the sky, and then everything beyond the sky is like rocket science, right? So we don't really know, and then whatever we know is through whatever we are being told. So there is a very that's so that's why I actually say that. But there are lots of questions even I have, like, you know, like when you watch movies like Truman, Truman Show, right? Yes, or when you actually, I'm recently watching ascension, by the way, and it's blowing me away, because that show is so interesting, because the name ascension kind of makes you sound like it's all about liberation, but it's all about captivity. It's all about captivity, and it's so well done, but that, and then, of course, under the dome is another one. All of this shows. What they show is that whatever we think it is, it's not right. So there is a possibility that, what do we think it is not so that to me, like I always keep that in my like, you know, even though I work for NASA and even though we're planning on going and living on Moon and Mars, and truly, that is what part of me believes in it. But if you ask me that 100% do you think that that is 100% the reality? I would say. I can never say 100% because I only know what I know right,

James Van Praagh:

because

Shehnaz Soni:

everyone of us has Yeah, right. We don't really know every single thing about it, but I think more of us, if you get together, then, of course, we can keep broadening our understanding of what really it it is. And I think that's what actually I would like for all of us to focus on, that we should all get together and start solving these problems one by one, because none, not one of us can ever solve any of this problem by themselves.

James Van Praagh:

Let me ask is, how many I don't know what the proper wording is, a star, star beings, systems. Have you been in contact with or know of? Or can you give us any insights on that? I mean, ladies, we know them. I've dealt with them. Great people, great beings, um, I don't know how many of you encountered or heard about

Shehnaz Soni:

so I would say that personally, I have felt reptilians, like I've felt them 100% I felt them actually, and I even see the way their eyes are, like, change, right? Yeah, wow. Like you feel like you're being observed. And that I've seen them, yes, right? That feeling has been there. And then I actually see the star beings that the one I mentioned that they show in the show valerian, very similar to them. They're just absolutely, like, they have this light, like they're very light about, like this, just so much light about them. That's like, they're very light skin color, but it's all light. It's like they're just extremely light being with beautiful color, like a rainbow color. And so that, to me, is, and they actually showed up when I was in Peru and, and, you know, it's interesting, yeah, they showed up for me in Peru. And I was like, wow. And then from that point on, they've been so it's, it's like, the good thing is that all of these beings have always been with us, right? But the but the only time we acknowledge them, or we recognize them, is when we are ready to converge with that part of consciousness which is already within us. Explain

James Van Praagh:

to us what consciousness is, your take on your viewpoint. So consciousness, to

Shehnaz Soni:

me, is, I think, feel, and so I think, feel and exist therefore I am, right? So, so I know that dash card says, I think, therefore I am. I just kind of add the not just the thinking, but the feeling and the sensing I sense, right? So I think, feel and sense therefore I am. So I kind of just put down this whole, you know, physical, emotional, mental, spiritual, and to me, consciousness is an acknowledgement of that, right? Because if you think about it, these are the these are the reasons that we feel, that we exist. Because if somebody takes away your thinking, your feeling and all of your senses, then what else is left? Yes, it's very true.

James Van Praagh:

Very true. So you have a consciousness, but it's on a different level, or levels, yes, and your perceptions change,

Shehnaz Soni:

yes.

James Van Praagh:

And do you think the soul will remember that when they pass into that dimension, that it all comes back? Oh, I remember this. This is who I really am. Do you think? Yes. Okay,

Shehnaz Soni:

so I have a very interesting answer for that, right? Because, first of all, the entire thing about remembering is connected with memory, right memory? Right memory is actually, I mean, we are more than 70% water for a reason, right? So connected with that, that ore, right? And then water, so, water crystal. So the whole thing is that, to me, it's all about tapping into the quantum field, to access information, to project it, and to broadcast it and to feel it. So when you really think about that quantum grant that you do, it's a very different mechanism than the way we understand it.

James Van Praagh:

Can you share a technique that you have to get into the quantum field or something that you share with people that you're have to get into the quantum field. Is

Shehnaz Soni:

it? Or how to get into quantum field is first you have to believe that it does exist, of course, right? Because if you don't believe in it, you're not going to access it. Because, just like everything else, right? We all, whatever your belief is, always going to open the door for you, to give you the permission right to do these things. So that's like a step number one. And then the thing is, the field exists because, you know, and there has been, like, you know, more for genetic field, quantum field, unified field theory, energy, Akashic Record. All of that is just different perception of the same thing, right, right, right, right, because we are explaining, I mean, that is the one thing that I do, actually in my book, and that is one of the thing that we need to start doing more of it, is that every single person have created the story, you know, based on the religion, based on whatever they believe in, all of the stuff, when you start looking at it, they're all saying the same thing, just

James Van Praagh:

in a different way, right? Wow. And what about what would you think the power of thought? Share with everybody the what your feelings are on the power of thought, that

Shehnaz Soni:

is everything thought does become things. There's just no question about it, partly because, if you think about it, right, everything that happens on the higher plane ends up materializing into the lower plane, which is physical. So spiritualization is materialized into matter, right by going from as above so below, right? So that that is the process for everything. So therefore, when you think about something, when you think about something, whether you do something about it or not, you've already affected your reality based on quantum physics.

James Van Praagh:

Yes, yes, because you you influence the field in your thought, that thought energy. So can you change that thought energy from that that's just judgment and negative to a positive? Can you do that? And let's change that field

Shehnaz Soni:

100% ever

James Van Praagh:

that original thought exists forever. Will that positive i negate that, or are they separate? So

Shehnaz Soni:

it's almost like that, you know, you're tapping into it again. So you are accessing information like you're dialing the channel, right? So there are lots of infinite channels available, because everybody has created their platform that's all exist, right, even yours and even everybody else's. So it's like a soup. It's like. Big soup you're accessing. But then you decide what you want to put your attention to, and keep charging it, and keep on broadcasting and keep on multiplying it, and keep on, you know, making your portal of reality with it

James Van Praagh:

points of interest. I call it points of your points of interest. Yeah. And Shazam, why would you describe a soul group. So, is there such a thing? Well, I

Shehnaz Soni:

think that this is very interesting, because, you know, like, I know that some people really do human design, and I kind of studied briefly, just to understand it enough. And it was very interesting because that kind of, they had a little bit of definition that I feel like it kind of aligned with my understanding of soul group is that, like, the entire human design is based on this fact that, you know the big bang, during the Big Bang, you know, every single soul came into existence, and there was, like, depending on where your your position, in your, you know, in the in the whole cosmos, then that connection, There's a connection with where you were placed, and therefore you have your soul tribe, right? And then that soul tribe, you know, you know there are people that you run, you know you find along the way, right? In this whole journey that you start with and end within this physical dimension, you find people who come in your life at a pivotal point. And then you cross pollinate with them, depending on whatever you're supposed to do, and the fact that they make an effect in your life, in a way that puts an imprint in your life. It doesn't matter whether they were with you for a few seconds or whether they were with you for eternity. They have made an impression that you're not going to ever forget about. And I love the

James Van Praagh:

word imprint, by the way, because I was thinking about that early, it's a perfect word imprint.

Shehnaz Soni:

Yeah, yeah. And I think that those people are part of the same soul tribe.

James Van Praagh:

Wow. What? What do you think the purpose of life is something easy? I thought I'd ask you,

Shehnaz Soni:

well, the purpose of life is to evolve. If I have to use one word, because that's pretty much the only word I think of all the time. That's just the way I operate. I feel like, if you're not evolving, then you might as well not exist.

James Van Praagh:

And what would you say if you had a share something? I mean, it's so much you have in your book, but you want to leave people with, like, what would you share with them? What one message that you'd like to get across? I mean, I know there are many, but pick one.

Shehnaz Soni:

Well, one message that I would like to leave people with is that you are it. You are it so, like, you know, every single like, majority of the people have been distracted by external influencing their internal right, and majority of the people who are very frustrated right now in what's happening in the world, they always can find, like many, many people, or many, many, you know, organization or many other bigger, larger group to blame for all the problems, right? And I personally say that you know you have to start from yourself and take one action that you can take to make yourself feel good about something. Because this whole thing where you've given the power to external for your internal is the reason we're having all of these problems.

James Van Praagh:

External for your internal. You said, yes. Great line, yes. We just could record you a book. A book could come right out of you right away. Yes. And so what do you say with fear? What's your definition of fear and what's your definition of love.

Shehnaz Soni:

So what? So it's interesting because, you know, as a software engineer, you know binary numbers. You know exactly. Because when I, you know, I teach this reality shopping class, and I have a course available if anybody's interested. But I basically make it very simple, is that every single, every moment, you're making a decision, and you need to ask a simple question to yourself, whether, am I making it because of fear, or am I making it because of love? Because it's a polarity. It's either love or fear. If you want to really simplify, it's one or the other. So basically, fear is an absence of love, and it's a false emotion appearing real, because that's what it stands for, you know, if you look at it as an acronym, and so fear truly is something that just holds us back. And majority of the time, I have noticed that all the fear that I had has always been at one point, I realized that it was an illusion.

James Van Praagh:

True, it can motivate us, but it is. It's an illusion. And and you think that concept of fear is just of the human dimension, because I've thought about that like I wonder if this emotional, this fear, is limited to a. Third dimensional world, because I know the spirit world is all about love, and that's the vibration of pure love. Does fear exist there? No, I don't think so, because that fear is a heavier energy, a denser energy, right? So just curious, what do you think? Yeah,

Shehnaz Soni:

I believe that, you know, because emotion, right? Which is energy, emotion, right? I believe that in that particular plane is where we feel the fear. And, you know, if you think about it, that to some extent, fear kind of gives us a little bit of a boundary, right? So it, it's almost like, you know, if you don't know how to swim and you're not going to jump into water because you have a fear of not because you know you're going to die, right? So that fear is legit. So to me, maybe the word fear has it's kind of like has taken a little we have given way too much power to it, right? Because it's good to be aware of your limitations. Because none of us are perfect, none of us are can do everything. We all have limitations. However, when we give it so much power that we don't move forward in our own evolution, then that is when you have given power to fear instead of love. So I think it becomes a very good tool for discernment.

James Van Praagh:

Yes, if the person is willing to. And I thought, as you said, it's self love is one of those important things to come back, I think, for and whether it's that forgetfulness or whatever want to call it, that many journeys and souls are here just to go and find that self again, to remember that they're this perfect being just the way they are. They don't have to be anything else but themselves and and I find out about you, you know, like attracts like, obviously that the end of like attracts like, and I'm finding my life now in 60s here that I'm only attractive people who are really self aware is that I'm just that's just the vibe I'm in that they're more self aware of themselves, their thoughts, their responsibility, their integrity, and other people that aren't, it's not like I don't like them. I'm just not magnetized to them. Does that make any sense?

Shehnaz Soni:

Yeah, because it's like a flying seagull. Yeah? Because, I mean, you know you are, because you know you are already at a certain frequency and vibration, and the more and more you are in that light, it truly is like, you know, you are going to and a lot of time, actually, I feel like I feel very alone in that, because a lot of time you don't feel that you can relate to a lot of people. The good thing is that it's okay, because, you know, it's always temporary, right? Because you You will find people at the right time, at the right place, when you really would like to interact with them, so it becomes a very beautiful dance

James Van Praagh:

ever alone.

Shehnaz Soni:

Thank you for reminding me that. And I reminded Yeah, because, you know we, because we, we think that our external is it? What we see is it? But what we see is is a much smaller part of the reality that we really are breathing in. It's true.

James Van Praagh:

It's true. So how would you like to leave this world? What do you want to what Mark Do you want to leave in this world,

Shehnaz Soni:

to be remembered? That's

James Van Praagh:

interesting. All these easy questions. I mean, come on, now, you valedictorian.

Shehnaz Soni:

It's funny, in one of my class I start with obituary. I actually say, What do you want your obituary to say?

James Van Praagh:

It's a great one, right?

Shehnaz Soni:

Think about it, like, let's start like, you know, like they say that begin with an end in mind, right? That is actually seven habits of highly effective people quote from that, right? And I love that quote because I use that all the time in my in my project, in my project, and nobody knows what to say after that, because that's true. We should. I think that's for me. I would love to leave the legacy, because you mentioned the entire thing that makes us more human being in this plane with our emotion, right? And I would love if I can put a smile on people's face when they think about me in a loving way. I think that's that would be nice. That's right.

James Van Praagh:

And you change the world. You've changed. You know, one life changed many lives, you know, because like rippling. But how can people find you? Because I know you teach classes as well. Yeah, you teach classes. How can they find you? What's the easiest way to find you?

Shehnaz Soni:

Well, they can just type my name on Google and they'll find more things about me than I would like them to know. But

James Van Praagh:

I did. It was great.

Shehnaz Soni:

And basically my website is shanatsoni.com so that's very easy. Uh, definitely. If people like what they hear, I feel like I've put my heart and soul on my book, The Quantum being. It's available on Amazon. They can get a copy of it. I have a couple of very good everybody,

James Van Praagh:

and you'll be able to understand it. Don't worry, because I understood it pretty well. So don't worry. The Quantum being itself sustaining and magnificent human craft, which we are,

Shehnaz Soni:

yeah, yes, yes, and yeah, I'm very

James Van Praagh:

grateful to workshops you do mostly online, or you do physical workshops. I

Shehnaz Soni:

do, I yeah, I do interactive workshops. So if people are interested in that, then they can sign up for my newsletter, and then I let them know when I do it, because my I don't have any kind of AI doing anything for me. So I pretty much do everything good exactly because I want to keep it that way, because I personally feel that we need more authenticity in this world. And I pretty much do what I do when I feel like it because I'm not doing it because, because I'm following some marketing training that I'm following, I'm doing it because my heart wants to do it. Yeah,

James Van Praagh:

you're passionate. Yeah, we'd love to have you back again, because, I mean, I've, there's so much you have to offer, and we didn't get to even a quarter of it. I mean, seriously, I mean, I just love, you know, the conversation, and I love that you're open. It goes in different directions, in different ways, and we,

Shehnaz Soni:

you know, yeah, sure. No, thank you. It has been fun for me as well. Yeah, Kelly worked for me too. So yeah, thank you games and thank you everybody,

James Van Praagh:

thanks. And Kelly was sending you our love. Okay,

Shehnaz Soni:

yes, you.